RE: Electric UFH &

["Kenneth Watt" <kwatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I read it. I went away, dealt with some stuff. I came back, read it
again. I
had a ludicrous amount of wine and then read it again.

Nope, still makes absolutely no sense at all.

K.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Chris Hunter
> Sent: 20 January 2007 19:41
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Electric UFH &
>
> Dammit ... 'forgotten what this thread's called ... sorry ...
>
>
> Thanks, interesting ... I guess I was thinking more of something
> simple,
> like an electronic crow-bar, that effectively shorts the mains &
blows
> the fuse if ever the voltage becomes excessive ... such approaches
used
> to be used in good-quality electronic equipment, maybe they still are
> ... maybe, too, today, a different technology would be the thing ...
> such as that used for resettable fuses in consumer units, or RCD
> shut-off devices ... but something that can pass 100A everyday, for
the
> heating system & other household equipment ... plus, of course,
the UPS
> to look-after the essentials !
>
> Actually, thinking about it, with all this fancy HA we're all chasing
> after, it ought to be possible to program it to tell when things
aren't
> what they ought to be, and do the necessary ... even if i's just
> keeping
> an eye on mains voltage ...
>
> OK ... what we need, is for Idratek & C-Bus to include a volts
& amps
> measuring device in their ranges ...
>
> 'wonder if the Electrisave could be useful in this, now that Iain's
> broken the code ?
>
> 'sorry, 'thinking out-loud !
>
> Chris
>
> -----
>
> Saturday, 20 Jan'07 - 17:53:06 -0000
>
> from: Graham Pye   Graham@xxxxxxx
>
> To protect your electronic devices (eg: PC, TV, etc) then you just
need
> a UPS, which also has the benefit of keeping them going for a bit if
> you
> have a power-cut.   I got mine from Andy Whitfield (www.upsman.co.uk)
> who sells reconditioned UPSs on EBay, and is a very helpful guy !   To
> regulate the voltage for the whole house, you can get constant voltage
> transformers, but that would be an expensive solution for all the
> electrics.   I used to work on things like that in a former life, but
I
> never really understood how they worked - it was something to do with
> the characteristics of the core changing under the influence of some
> control voltage, but it was a long time ago now !
>
> Graham
>
> -----
>
> Saturday, 20 Jan'07 - 10:52:59 +0000
>
>  >peaking at over 300V ...
>
> Interesting ... 'wonder if there's a device that could be used to
limit
> incoming voltages (with the winds we've been having, and the story
from
> Madrid a few days ago - 'though I know our earth's are better here,
> thanks to the damp ... ) - 'could save having to dig up the floor if
> the
> worst happens !
>
> Also makes me wonder about our thoughts of going for wet UFH with
> thermal stores & electric boilers, retaining the option of gas --
if
> electric cables would be easy & less expensive, maybe we could
keep the
> option of gas through use of (for example) a Whispergen (sp?).
>
> Chris