RE: was: Re: Idratek - Serious Contender? Now: Alternative to clipsal switches in C-Bus Install

["Nigel Giddings" <nigel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Frank,

This would mean a C-Bus Coupler in each switch. In the guest Room this
woul=
d be 4 couplers, with my jumpered solution I can cover all the switches
wit=
h the equivalent of 1 Aux Coupler... At least a 50% saving ? (Not allowing
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for the Krone Frame approx =A315 off e-bay)

Nigel

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:frankmc@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 01 February 2006 09:42
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] was: Re: Idratek - Serious Contender? Now:
Alternativ=
e to clipsal switches in C-Bus Install

Hi Nigel

>I had also considered the C-Bus Coupler but it is limited to 3 metres
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>wiring, which would be >great if the coupler was co-located with the
switc=
h=20
>but I am home-running all the light switch >wires to the C-Bus
Dimmer=20
>locations.

Could you not just use the homerun cables as CBUS comms cable from each=20
switch bus coupler ?? Then you would be able to have  bus couplers at each=
=20
switch ???

Frank

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From: "Nigel Giddings" <nigel@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] was: Re: Idratek - Serious Contender? Now:
Alternativ=
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to clipsal switches in C-Bus Install


Gareth,

I am considering the idea of using simple retractive switches (RPP
Easyclip=
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at 99% of the locations. If I have any money left I may go for a nice
touch=
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screen thingy in an appropriate location...

I had also considered the C-Bus Coupler but it is limited to 3 metres of=20
wiring, which would be great if the coupler was co-located with the switch=
=20
but I am home-running all the light switch wires to the C-Bus Dimmer=20
locations.

I have decided to run Cat5(e) from all the switch plates to Krone Frames
at=
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one of two C-Bus locations (Thanks to Jim Noble for helping with this last=
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weekend!). I will then wire from the Krone frames to C-Bus Aux modules
whic=
h=20
do not have the distance limitation.

The main driver for this is cost, secondly, as much as I like the
clipsal=20
C-Bus switches they are only switches and I want the switch locations to
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multi-function and offer flexible (Initially I would like to include=20
Temperature sensors (1-wire), PIR, and IR Rx'ers).

The cost advantage is enhanced by the fact that I expect many of the
switch=
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locations to have the same function. As an example; the guest bedroom has
4=
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switch locations, 1.Entrance door 2.Bed-Side Left 3.Bed-Side Right=20
4.En-Suite Shower Door. The left most switch in 3 of the locations will be=
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'Lights on/off'. The 2nd switch from the left will be 'night scene'.

Having run all the switches back to the Krone Frame I can 'Jumper' the 3=20
'Lights on/off' switches together in the Krone Frame and connect to one
Aux=
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input programmed for this function. (Saves on Programming too...)

I still have flexibility in that I can 're-jumper' any switch to any Aux
I/=
P=20
if I want to change the design or change the setting of the Aux I/P in=20
software so I hope that will cover most situations. The current wall plate=
=20
selection allows for 4 units in each location.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who can see any flaws in my=20
thinking (I can take criticism, I'm used to it...) Of course I'm losing=20
feedback from the pretty lights and I would use that for other
notification=
s=20
as well, such as message waiting, external movement detection etc.

Regards

Nigel
http://photos.corbenic.co.uk



-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 01 February 2006 08:47
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Re: Idratek - Serious Contender?

With the CBUS Coupler, you can 4 cheap momentary switches - MK's for
example. Coupler is about =A350 quid of which you can connect 4 switches -
so 4 rooms for =A360 ? You wont get pretty lights on the switches but
certainly an option.

Then you have an 8 channel dimmer for about =A3320 - so for 8 lights on 2
couplers that would be about =A355 per room. If you use a 12 channel relay
instead, then 12 rooms can be done for about =A345/room

G.

Gareth Cook
Tools and Process Architect
IBM SWG Sales - Lotus Park, Staines, TW18 3AG
Office: +44 (0)1784 445166 - Mobile: +44 (0)7980 445166
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--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden" <frankmc@i...>
wrote:

>  'looks OK to me - a lot better than Clipsal, anyway
> Your not serious here ????.........
> Clipsal,s Saturn and DLT,s .....theres nothing that i have seen that
> looks anywhere near as nice ....

The clipsal stuff does look pretty...

But IMHO, it all looks like it should be on the wall of a modern
office building, not a 4 bed semi :-)

Cheers

Steve