Fw: was: Re: Idratek - Serious Contender? Now: Alternative to clipsal switches in C-Bus Install

[Gareth Cook <g@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, the length of the coupler could be an issue - you'll hve to be crafty=
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with it's location.

Also, no reason why you cant use a twin momentary using 2 ports on the=20
coupler for a room - ie one for light, one for curtains, etc.

G.

Gareth Cook
Tools and Process Architect
IBM SWG Sales - Lotus Park, Staines, TW18 3AG
Office: +44 (0)1784 445166 - Mobile: +44 (0)7980 445166
AIM Chat : TheBoyG - MSN Chat : chat@xxxxxxx
email: g@xxxxxxx

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Gareth,

I am considering the idea of using simple retractive switches (RPP=20
Easyclip) at 99% of the locations. If I have any money left I may go for a=
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nice touch screen thingy in an appropriate location...

I had also considered the C-Bus Coupler but it is limited to 3 metres of=20
wiring, which would be great if the coupler was co-located with the switch=
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but I am home-running all the light switch wires to the C-Bus Dimmer=20
locations.

I have decided to run Cat5(e) from all the switch plates to Krone Frames=20
at one of two C-Bus locations (Thanks to Jim Noble for helping with this=20
last weekend!). I will then wire from the Krone frames to C-Bus Aux=20
modules which do not have the distance limitation.

The main driver for this is cost, secondly, as much as I like the
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C-Bus switches they are only switches and I want the switch locations to=20
be multi-function and offer flexible (Initially I would like to include=20
Temperature sensors (1-wire), PIR, and IR Rx'ers).

The cost advantage is enhanced by the fact that I expect many of the=20
switch locations to have the same function. As an example; the guest=20
bedroom has 4 switch locations, 1.Entrance door 2.Bed-Side Left 3.Bed-Side=
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Right 4.En-Suite Shower Door. The left most switch in 3 of the locations=20
will be 'Lights on/off'. The 2nd switch from the left will be 'night=20
scene'.=20

Having run all the switches back to the Krone Frame I can 'Jumper' the 3=20
'Lights on/off' switches together in the Krone Frame and connect to one=20
Aux input programmed for this function. (Saves on Programming too...)

I still have flexibility in that I can 're-jumper' any switch to any Aux=20
I/P if I want to change the design or change the setting of the Aux I/P in=
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software so I hope that will cover most situations. The current wall plate=
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selection allows for 4 units in each location.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who can see any flaws in my=20
thinking (I can take criticism, I'm used to it...) Of course I'm losing=20
feedback from the pretty lights and I would use that for other=20
notifications as well, such as message waiting, external movement=20
detection etc.

Regards

Nigel
http://photos.corbenic.co.uk



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From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 01 February 2006 08:47
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] Re: Idratek - Serious Contender?

With the CBUS Coupler, you can 4 cheap momentary switches - MK's for=20
example. Coupler is about =A350 quid of which you can connect 4 switches -=
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so 4 rooms for =A360 ? You wont get pretty lights on the switches but=20
certainly an option.

Then you have an 8 channel dimmer for about =A3320 - so for 8 lights on
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couplers that would be about =A355 per room. If you use a 12 channel relay=
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instead, then 12 rooms can be done for about =A345/room

G.

Gareth Cook
Tools and Process Architect
IBM SWG Sales - Lotus Park, Staines, TW18 3AG
Office: +44 (0)1784 445166 - Mobile: +44 (0)7980 445166
AIM Chat : TheBoyG - MSN Chat : chat@xxxxxxx
email: g@xxxxxxx

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--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden" <frankmc@i...>
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>  'looks OK to me - a lot better than Clipsal, anyway
> Your not serious here ????.........
> Clipsal,s Saturn and DLT,s .....theres nothing that i have seen that
> looks anywhere near as nice ....

The clipsal stuff does look pretty...

But IMHO, it all looks like it should be on the wall of a modern
office building, not a 4 bed semi :-)

Cheers

Steve





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