RE: DIY CAT 5

["Brian Milton" <bmilton@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I Got one of these a while back.  Was fine for a while but then just went
mad.  The lights were just flashing in no particular order but the cable
wa=
s
fine.  Ended up in the bin.  But hey it was only a tenner!  Got the boss to
buy me a nice big fancy one!

Brian

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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:53:21 +0100
From: ian.bird@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: DIY CAT 5

On the lines of CAT5 testers I got one from ebay like this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D96916&item=3D578=
47713
09&rd=3D1
http://tinyurl.com/7mxtq

I paid just under a tenner including postage at around 6 quid. I have used=
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it and it works just fine as a basic tester for both patch cables as
well=20
as runs inside/outside between rooms. It is basic though and just tells=20
you whether there is a connection and whether the colours are in the=20
correct holes. What more could you ask for though for the money.=20

Very pleased, no association etc. etc.

Ian









"aashram" <groups@xxxxxxx>
Sent by: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
29/06/2005 11:38
Please respond to ukha_d

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To:     <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>, "UKHA" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
cc:     (bcc: Ian Bird/CV/Novartis)
Subject:        RE: [ukha_d] DIY CAT 5


Screwfix do the cable and tools
as well as tlc-direct - I am sure there are other recommended suppliers.
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one recommendation I would give is get a cat5 cable tester.
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there are plenty of guides on the web to show you how to wire up
rj45 connectors.
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx on behalf of Ho Yin Ng
Sent: Wed 29/06/2005 11:32
To: UKHA
Subject: [ukha_d] DIY CAT 5



Do you guys make your own CAT 5 cable? Or do you buy pre made off the=20
shelf?

I have got to start running some cable around the house for all the
usual=20
things I assume CAT 5 can handle 1000mbit networking?

Where is the best place to get the crimping tools and cabling?

Do you have any tips or recommendations or things I should be aware of=20
before I start?

I know the general HA rule .. decide how much you want then triple it.

Thanks,

Ho yin







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Message: 9=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:57:05 +0100
From: Jim Noble <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DIY CAT 5

Andrew Kilgore wrote:

> > Assuming you mean patch cables it's far far easier to buy off the
shelf=
.
> > You can get a 0.3m cable for 28p in a variety of colours!
>
> Do tell where...!
> No doubt they'll charge 20 quid to post to N.I. ;o)


www.minitran.co.uk

"Mini5 Cat5e UTP Patch Leads With Moulded Strain Relief Boot"

Curiously cheaper than the non-booted versions.

I lied though. They're 0.5m leads. I forget where I got my 0.3m ones from.

Jim


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Message: 10=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:08:12 +0100
From: "Paul Robinson" <ukcueman@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DIY CAT 5

> > > Assuming you mean patch cables it's far far easier to buy
off the
shelf.
> > > You can get a 0.3m cable for 28p in a variety of colours!
> > Do tell where...!
> > No doubt they'll charge 20 quid to post to N.I. ;o)
> www.minitran.co.uk
>
> I lied though. They're 0.5m leads. I forget where I got my 0.3m ones
from=
.

26p for 0.3m from Cablenet, 27p for 0.5m
http://www.cablenet.org.uk/catalog/ecom5utp.htm

They also have 305m of solid cat5e for =A320

Paul



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Message: 11=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:42:47 +0100
From: "Davey" <DB1001@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DELL LCD - Buy one get one half price

The rather nice 20" widescreen one works out to be =A3386.87inc VAT
and
Delivery. So long as you can find a friend who wants one as well.

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/promo.aspx/uk/en/fy2006_q2_w8_1703=
_
flat_panel_?c=3Duk&cs=3Dukdhs1&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs

or

http://tinyurl.com/cv68r

Shame I don't have any friends.

Davey "No Mates"

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Message: 12=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:44:54 +0100
From: James Fidell <james@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Lightning strike protection

Guess who has broken stuff to replace this morning? :)

We had a cheap phone die in the storms on Friday morning and somehow,
though I can't see how, the switch port that my adsl router is plugged
into stopped working with a loud "pop" last night.

So, before I move to asterisk and risk blowing up an entire PC, I could
really do with some sort of protection from lightning strikes on the
phone lines (they run over ground, over the tops of hills, for about
three miles to the exchange, so an easy target for lightning).

Any recommendations?  Preferably avoiding moving house...

James


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Message: 13=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:46:36 +0100
From: "Mark McCall" <lists@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Flip-Down Plasma Mount

http://www.auton.com/content/gallery/plasma_flip.html

M.




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Message: 14=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:56:11 +0100
From: Andy Davies <dajdavies@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Flip-Down Plasma Mount

Nice idea, but what about the neck ache?

Mark McCall wrote:

>http://www.auton.com/content/gallery/plasma_flip.html
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>M.
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Message: 15=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:00:56 +0100
From: Andrew Kilgore <andrew.kilgore@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Flip-Down Plasma Mount

> Nice idea, but what about the neck ache?
Agreed :o(

Anyone know where I can find a smaller version of this for mounting
(say) a 15" TFT to the underside of kitchen cupboards...?

Thanks,
Andy.

On 6/29/05, Andy Davies <dajdavies@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Nice idea, but what about the neck ache?
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> >M.
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Message: 16=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:03:00 +0100
From: "Ho Yin Ng" <yahoogroups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightning strike protection

You can get those power extension leads which have surge protection
which=20
also have telephone line protection.

Maplins and even Argos have them .. never used them though so can't
comment=
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on whether they really work.

Ho yin
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "James Fidell" <james@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:44 PM
Subject: [ukha_d] Lightning strike protection


> Guess who has broken stuff to replace this morning? :)
>
> We had a cheap phone die in the storms on Friday morning and somehow,
> though I can't see how, the switch port that my adsl router is plugged
> into stopped working with a loud "pop" last night.
>
> So, before I move to asterisk and risk blowing up an entire PC, I
could
> really do with some sort of protection from lightning strikes on the
> phone lines (they run over ground, over the tops of hills, for about
> three miles to the exchange, so an easy target for lightning).
>
> Any recommendations?  Preferably avoiding moving house...
>
> James
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 17=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:30 +0200
From: Bram Biesbrouck <b@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Home automation methods  ...Cbus, X10, Zwave....

Op woensdag 29 juni 2005 10:56, schreef mark_harrison_uk2:

> ...SNIP
> The other thing that is, of course, HUGE in continental Europe is EIB.
> I always feel that I'm slightly missing the point with EIB - I still
> don't _quite_ get it. That having been said, the only bunch who come
> close to matching CBus in terms of range of looks for the faceplates.
> (That having been said, some, such as Flexidim, or for that matter,
> X10, make it very, very, easy to integrate third party switches.)

As a belgian HA interestee, I would find it interesting if any of you guys
could compare EIB to Cbus for me...





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Message: 18=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:14:29 -0000
From: "slashcomfort" <yahoo@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Ickle Puters

appears the link doesnt work - permission denied from server...

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Mark McCall" <lists@a...> wrote:
> http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/images/temp/viamac.jpg
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Message: 19=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:21:02 +0100
From: "Hawes,Timothy Edward \(GEG\)" <haweste@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DIY CAT 5

I can also vouch for Cablenet - very impressed with their service and
price=
s
:-)=20
(no affiliation etc.)=20

Tim.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Robinson
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> > > > Assuming you mean patch cables it's far far easier
to=20
> buy off the shelf.
> > > > You can get a 0.3m cable for 28p in a variety of
colours!
> > > Do tell where...!
> > > No doubt they'll charge 20 quid to post to N.I. ;o)
> > www.minitran.co.uk
> >
> > I lied though. They're 0.5m leads. I forget where I got my=20
> 0.3m ones from.
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> 26p for 0.3m from Cablenet, 27p for 0.5m=20
> http://www.cablenet.org.uk/catalog/ecom5utp.htm
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> They also have 305m of solid cat5e for =A320
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> Paul



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Message: 20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:08 +0100
From: Simon Ryley <simon.ryley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Powering a remote wake up switch from automation PC

I'm fitting an embedded micro with a webserver to my automation pc to=20
allow me to wake up the automation pc remotely from standby.

For power saving reasons, the pc is normally in S3 standby, and wakes up=20
through scheduled tasks when things need to be done.

I'd like to be able to wake it up remotely over the web when I want to=20
do maintenance on it, so I'm fitting a micro connected to the power=20
switch to bring the machine out of standby.

The micro needs a regulated 5v or a unreg 12v supply to run.  As an=20
elegant solution, as it is fitted inside the pc chassis, I'd like to=20
power it from the PC ATX power supply.  Problem is when the machine is=20
in Standby, all the fans, drives etc are turned off.=20

Does anyone know a source of permanent 12v or 5v from the PC power=20
supply that I can use to power the micro?  I've measured the standby 5v=20
on the USB port, and it seems to be more like 6v so isn't suitable.=20

Thanks,

Simon



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Message: 21=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:33:20 +0100
From: "Davey" <DB1001@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Ickle Puters

Fine from here.
Arhhh.. isn't it sweet. Teeny-Weeny !

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "slashcomfort" <yahoo@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:14 PM
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Ickle Puters


> appears the link doesnt work - permission denied from server...
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> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Mark McCall" <lists@a...>
wrote:
>> http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/images/temp/viamac.jpg
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Message: 22=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:34:27 +0000
From: "christopher purves" <CHRIS_PURVES@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DIY CAT 5

Me too - fantastic...... one comment though do **NOT** buy cheap cat5e.

Ben A. and I spent 6 days laying cat5e of varying qualities in my house
-=20
the cheap stuff (=A320 per box) kinks like a bug**r wheras the more
expensi=
ve=20
stuff (=A350 say) is a joy to use and hard to kink. I bought some of the
mo=
re=20
expensive stuff (all solid) because I wanted different colours for=20
sound/comfort/cbus/data/fire/ etc etc so we had a huge selection of cables=
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to test over the week.

Just my option etc.

Chris


>From: "Hawes,Timothy Edward (GEG)" <haweste@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] DIY CAT 5
>Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:21:02 +0100
>
>I can also vouch for Cablenet - very impressed with their service
and=20
>prices :-)
>(no affiliation etc.)
>
>Tim.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Robinson
> >
> > > > > Assuming you mean patch cables it's far far easier
to
> > buy off the shelf.
> > > > > You can get a 0.3m cable for 28p in a variety of
colours!
> > > > Do tell where...!
> > > > No doubt they'll charge 20 quid to post to N.I. ;o)
> > > www.minitran.co.uk
> > >
> > > I lied though. They're 0.5m leads. I forget where I got my
> > 0.3m ones from.
> >
> > 26p for 0.3m from Cablenet, 27p for 0.5m
> > http://www.cablenet.org.uk/catalog/ecom5utp.htm
> >
> > They also have 305m of solid cat5e for =A320
> >
> > Paul
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 23=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:40:21 +0000
From: "christopher purves" <CHRIS_PURVES@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightning strike protection

Anyone know of anything more idustrial ? Looking to protect node 0 which
ha=
s

2 20 amp lines into it ? It also has radio/tv/satelite feeds coming in.


Chris


>From: "Ho Yin Ng" <yahoogroups@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Lightning strike protection
>Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:03:00 +0100
>
>You can get those power extension leads which have surge protection
which
>also have telephone line protection.
>
>Maplins and even Argos have them .. never used them though so can't
commen=
t
>on whether they really work.
>
>Ho yin
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Fidell" <james@xxxxxxx>
>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:44 PM
>Subject: [ukha_d] Lightning strike protection
>
>
> > Guess who has broken stuff to replace this morning? :)
> >
> > We had a cheap phone die in the storms on Friday morning and
somehow,
> > though I can't see how, the switch port that my adsl router is
plugged
> > into stopped working with a loud "pop" last night.
> >
> > So, before I move to asterisk and risk blowing up an entire PC, I
could
> > really do with some sort of protection from lightning strikes on
the
> > phone lines (they run over ground, over the tops of hills, for
about
> > three miles to the exchange, so an easy target for lightning).
> >
> > Any recommendations?  Preferably avoiding moving house...
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Message: 24=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:46:53 +0100
From: "Hawes,Timothy Edward \(GEG\)" <haweste@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DIY CAT 5

I have made my own patch leads but it's not a particularly effective use
of time ;-)

For the in-wall cables I've bought from TLC (www.tlc-direct.co.uk) and
from Screwfix - both types of cable were "Cat 5e" and both brands
have
been fine. One thing to watch for, that I've seen on some types of
cable, is that in most good cables you get COLOUR and stripe, some other
cables, the "stripe" is actually just plain white but twisted
with the
COLOUR. This is fine until you start to unravel the cores to crimp on
the plugs and then it's hard to identify what's what.=20

Traditionally you'd use solid cable for fixed (in wall) wiring and
stranded for patch leads. Solid is (much) cheaper, but less flexible.
There's no real reason no to do it with pre-made stranded patch leads
however, although but you will be limited to the pre-made lengths
available and it will be harder to thread through the walls etc if the
RJ45 plugs are already attached.

RS do crimping tools and supplies etc., as do quite a few other places,
even B&Q etc. I've got use of a very nice AMP crimp tool, but it's
waaaay over-spec'd for 'hobby' use :-)

To comply with the regs you also shouldn't run LV and mains within 50mm
of each other unless separated by a physical barrier e.g. separate
lengths of trucking in the wall, or an internally-partitioned dado rail
conduit thing. Also, make sure you properly identify each cable before
you pull it. It make things much easier when it comes to terminations.
One favoured scheme is to use bands of coloured electrical tape:
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/modules.php?name=3DContent&pa=3Dshowpage&pid=
=3D
6 I used this method and can recommend it.

One final point - make sure you also run plenty of Cat 5 to the kitchen,
even if you think you'll *never* use it . . .
;-)

HTH,

Tim.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ho Yin Ng
>=20
> Do you guys make your own CAT 5 cable? Or do you buy pre made=20
> off the shelf?
>=20
> I have got to start running some cable around the house for=20
> all the usual things I assume CAT 5 can handle 1000mbit networking?
>=20
> Where is the best place to get the crimping tools and cabling?
>=20
> Do you have any tips or recommendations or things I should be=20
> aware of before I start?
>=20
> I know the general HA rule .. decide how much you want then triple it.
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Ho yin


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Message: 25=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:48:30 +0100
From: Jim Noble <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightning strike protection

christopher purves wrote:

> Anyone know of anything more idustrial ? Looking to protect node 0=20
> which has
> 2 20 amp lines into it ? It also has radio/tv/satelite feeds coming
in.


Check the archives. Someone found some din rail mounted stuff a while=20
back...

Jim

(ps. and then let us know what it was ;-) We had quite a display of=20
lightning last night as well...)


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