RE: bathroom lighting ideas?

["JT @ Home" <Jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mark,

Many thanks for taking the time to come back to me.

Brilliant, I need a low-tech solution !

The ups backup lighting is a brilliant idea too!

Regards,
Jonathan.

-----Original Message-----
From: mark [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 30 January 2005 15:51
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?


Hi Jonathan,
Low tech automation I'm afraid.
Standard external PIR sensor, with delay-off timer set to approx. 5mins

This picture shows the sensor mounted in the ceiling, next to the
speaker >>
http://www.markryder.me.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=85&pos=14

Simple was best in this case.

I would have preferred to use the flush 360 degree type "occupancy
detectors", however cost was an issue, plus the one I used has
everything in
one unit, mains-in, mains-switching, timer etc.

I took some time thinking about what kit to install in a bathroom from a
safety perspective.  So the sensor is mounted well outside of the
wet-zones,
is inherently splash-proof as it is an external rated unit, is enclosed
within the ceiling etc.  Also, the main lighting is 12V low-voltage.
The
cove night-lamps use rope-lighting which is fully sealed.

The good thing is that if I wish to add to the system later with more
control or automation, I can use relay contacts in parallel with the
existing sensors.

One other point to note is that I have installed "automated night
lighting"
concealed in several rooms now.  These all receive their power supply
via a
UPS in the loft, so in the event of a power failure you still have
lighting
around the house rather than trying to find the torch etc.

Regards,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: JT @ Home [mailto:Jonathan@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 27 January 2005 23:21
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?


Hi mark,

What are the details of the sensor you used for triggering your
ceiling
lights? And did you use anything else (ie a timer to keep the lights
on
for x duration?)

The plasterer is coming in the weekend after next to do the bathroom
for
me, once he's done im going to probably start putting something
together.

Unfortunately this house wont have any automation (bar a few toys like
the bathroom lighting)

Regards
Jonathan.

-----Original Message-----
From: mark [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 27 January 2005 19:09
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?



You gotta stay one step ahead!!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mouser [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 January 2005 09:14
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?


P.S. That little alcove to the right of the basin looks suspiciously
"LCD
Touch Screen Waterproof TV" in size? /me thinks you may not have
told
SWMBO
the whole truth and nothing but the truth about your future plans
;-)

Many thanks,

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: mark [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 January 2005 02:19
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?



Hi Jonathan,
I did some work in my ensuite bathroom, and of course wanted to
"automate"
where possible.

I was re-decorating at the time too, so that made things easier.
The
main
points I wanted to achieve were: -

- Dramatic and fun
- Colour by light
- Automated low-level night-lights
- Automated shower ventilation
- New "lighted" alcove feature space adjacent to basin
- Non destructive means of installing lighting fittings

I wanted to "see" the light, not the fittings for the automated
night
lighting.  I created a new ceiling approx 100mm beneath the original
ceiling
and left approx. 100mm space all round the edges to the wall.   This
left
the existing coving intact and actually used it as a reflector for
the
night
lighting.   The ceiling design allowed for sealed rope-lights to be
concealed all the way round the edge.   This creates a perfect, even
lighting effect around the room.

Also, I didn't want to start making holes into the loft space to
install
lighting fixtures, so the new ceiling solution worked great as I
could
make
all the holes I like without damaging the existing ceiling.   If I
want to
change the design later on, then no damage done, simply remove the
false
ceiling.

The automated lighting is triggered by a sensor mounted in the
ceiling
above
the door.  In addition to the edge lighting, the sensor also lights
an
area
next to the basin and starts the ventilation of steam from the
shower
cubical.

Space was tight around the basin for any storage etc, so I built an
alcove
within the wall to the side of the basin and lined it with blue
mosaic
tile.
It is an interesting design feature, plus allows another opportunity
to
boost the night lighting just where you need it.

The "main" room lighting is controlled by a conventional switch
outside
the
room.  This consists of low-voltage halogen lamps.   These fittings
could
be
concealed within the new ceiling.   Also, I wanted to add some fun
lighting
to the shower area rather than "bog-standard" (excuse the pun)
white
halogens.   Therefore I installed sealed blue halogens which create
a
fantastic blue pool of light from the shower area into the room.

The new ceiling also allows installation of speakers for the whole
house
audio system which is my current project.

Pictures on my website at: -
http://www.markryder.me.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=85

Make sure you post pictures of your project when complete!
Cheers,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: JT @ Home [mailto:Jonathan@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 January 2005 21:44
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] bathroom lighting ideas?


hi chaps,

wonder if any of you have any 'unusual' lighting scheme's in your
bathrooms.

By unusual I mean anything other than a few halogen's in the
ceiling...
and any photo's to assist me with my bathroom renovation.

I have a white suite, chrome taps, original 1930's sink,
travertine
floor tiles (30x30) and 10x10 black marble tiles up the shower
wall.

Any help most appreciated.
Jonathan.