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Re: Now Treo 650s, was New Sonos Player
Thanks ... I may go to them - I was holding-off only because their=20
prices are a bit high, even with their appended free-offers of cradles
&=20
head-sets!
White, Peter wrote:
> Expansys have 248 in stock. They're the largest Treo retailer in
the=20
> UK (or
> so they tell me).
>
> http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=3D125420
> <http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=3D125420>
>
> _____=20
>
> From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 29 December 2005 19:16
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Now Treo 650s, was New Sonos Player
>
>
> 'tried again today, to buy a Treo 650 ... all sold-out, again ...=20
> 'makes we wonder if there's a pause on deliveries, for a software=20
> update ... maybe it's just Christmas ... maybe I should wait a while ?
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 28 Dec 2005, at 22:09, White, Peter wrote:
>
> > We're on the latest firmware flash (the handsets aren't tied to
a=20
> > network,
> > which is important, as the Orange firmware upgrades are always=20
> > months behind
> > the 'generic' ones). Aside from GoodLink, we don't really have
any=20
> > other
> > apps on there, but they still crash - it's a fact of Treo life.
The
> > annoying thing is when it dies, reboots itself, but doesn't
turn=20
> > the phone
> > back on - you only realise that when you go to make a call.=20=20
> > There's even
> > apps available that solve that problem, which just goes to
show=20
> > that the
> > crashing is not unusual.
> >
> > As a phone it's fine - the on-board speakerphone is also good=20
> > enough to use
> > in a quiet office. It also works well with the Parrot
Bluetooth=20
> > car kits.
> > As a PDA, we use the GoodLink suite, so it's all OTA (Over the
Air)=20
> > sync'ing
> > with the Exchange server - works a dream. I've dropped it once
or=20
> > twice,
> > and apart from the memory card pinging out, there's no problem
with=20
> > it.
> > Bearing in mind we've got 80 of 'em in the hands of mobile=20
> > engineers, we've
> > only had 2 fail so far, and that was just because a button fell
off.
> >
> > Our deal is with O2 - as far as I know they still haven't fixed
their
> > billing system, so can't actually charge for data on certain=20
> > tariffs...I
> > know our tariff (something around =A323 per month for 750 min
anytime/
> > any
> > network mins, 50 SMS and unlimited data) isn't capped for data,
but
> > obviously that's on a bulk corporate deal. And they threw a
stack=20
> > of cash
> > at us!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 28 December 2005 08:55
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Now Treo 650s, was New Sonos Player
> >
> >
> > Peter -
> >
> > Thanks ... good info' ... 'wonder if there's a down-load to fix
the
> > crashes, or maybe they're due to reception problems ?
> >
> > 'never have been a fan of our '6310s, though - the user interface
> > doesn't flow, for me at least, and one of our two is too prone to
> > cutting-out part-way through a call ... much preferred our old
> > Triums, until after some years their batteries expired ... 'wife
now
> > has a Motorola clamshell, which seems pretty good, and I'm
making-do
> > with the better Nokia until the Treo ...
> >
> > Incidentally, I was looking at getting the Treo with a new
Vodafone
> > any-network deal, but when I ran a spreadsheet on what's on offer
via
> > Expansys I found the cross-over less than a year ahead, so I
think
> > we'll be sticking with my current 'card ... either-way, e-mail
costs
> > extra, of course, or as far as I can find out, at 2.34GBP per
2Meg
> > (IIRC), so I hope it has good filters, to control the downloads !
> > My main interest, however, is in its 'phone & pda functions
(having
> > dropped & cracked the screen of my Palm, and pencil &
paper not
> > giving me quite the same functionality!)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 27 Dec 2005, at 20:43, White, Peter wrote:
> >
> > > They're pretty good. If, like a lot of my staff, you're
used to
> > > using a
> > > trusty Nokia 6310, then the hanging and crashing that tend
to occur
> > > every
> > > few days is annoying, but in my experience no worse than any
other
> > > smartphone. We've got mobile engineers using them, and so
far I
> > > think we've
> > > had 2 go back under warrantee due to the main select button
falling
> > > off.
> > > Personally I love the Treo's, and paired with GoodLink (push
email)
> > > they're
> > > easily better than Blackberry, though even the on-board
Verso mail
> > > isn't too
> > > bad, and can be config'd to sync with gmail (or whatever)
every 5
> > > mins, so
> > > whilst not true push, still not bad for a freebie app.
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 27 December 2005 10:53
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
> > >
> > >
> > > OK - I didn't read it carefully enough ... great offer only
if you
> > > live in the US ... still, seems an exceptional offer ...
> > >
> > > since you said nothing to the contrary, I guess the many
Treos you
> > > bought have proved to be the right choice ... I did try
several=20
> > times
> > > to buy one a week ago, and found PC World shops had the
best=20
> > prices -
> > > 380GBP ... but everytime they'd just sold their last one ...
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On 27 Dec 2005, at 10:34, Chris Hunter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks - yesterday via Google I saw them at possibly
299USD -
> > > >
> > > > http://web.palm.com/promos/ <http://web.palm.com/promos/>
> <http://web.palm.com/promos/ <http://web.palm.com/promos/> >
> > <http://web.palm.com/promos/ <http://web.palm.com/promos/>
> <http://web.palm.com/promos/ <http://web.palm.com/promos/> >
>
> > > >=20
> >
treo650_100_rebate.jhtml;jsessionid=3DLAC3OMFBYNRCUCQFGJDCFFQKAUZEOIV0
> > > >
> > > > made me suspect a new model must be on the way ... !
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 27 Dec 2005, at 09:53, White, Peter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We had to buy about 100 Treos a couple of months
ago.....the
> > > > > pricing we got
> > > > > from Sprint and Cingular didn't work out any
cheaper than the
> > > price
> > > > > we got
> > > > > in the UK (=A3320 per handset, then a =A3250
hardware credit from=
=20
> > the
> > > > > airtime
> > > > > provider). Even without the credit, the US
handsets didn't work
> > > > > out any
> > > > > cheaper - Expansys have them listed at $580 at the
moment, so
> > > > broadly
> > > > > comparable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pete
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Chris Hunter [mailto:cjhunter@xxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 26 December 2005 23:30
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On the subject of buying things in the US, I
notice that Treo=20
> > 650s
> > > > > are much cheaper there than here ... they may be
about to
> > > > discontinue
> > > > > them, for I know ... but I was wondering if it
would work here
> > > if I
> > > > > bought it there ... they are multi-band, I think
...
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 26 Dec 2005, at 22:08, White, Peter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Go on then, whatd'ya know????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm over in Dallas at the end of Jan and
there's a Sonos
> > > reseller
> > > > > > there, so
> > > > > > need to start compiling my shopping list!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pete
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Gareth Cook [mailto:g@xxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: 26 December 2005 20:33
> > > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Fw: [ukha_d] New Sonos Player
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ah good - I can discuss it now :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > G.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gareth Cook
> > > > > > Tools and Process Architect
> > > > > > IBM SWG Sales - Lotus Park, Staines, TW18 3AG
> > > > > > Office: +44 (0)1784 445166 - Mobile: +44
(0)7980 445166
> > > > > > AIM Chat : TheBoyG - MSN Chat : chat@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > email: g@xxxxxxx
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Forwarded by Gareth Cook/UK/IBM on
26/12/2005 20:28=20
> > -----
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