RE: Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller

["P Murgatroyd" <yahoogroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Cos the hp is twice the price of the dell!

Well...not quite but the difference is substantial..

My experience of both has been very positive though... never had a problem
with dell servers... and never had a problem with proliants..

At the end of the day, apart from the smart array controller, its all the
same stuff inside the box anyway... all serverworks chipsets, broadcom
NIC's
etc so hopefully all should be ok... (although smartstart/Insight Manager
blows OpenManage away)

p.
-----Original Message-----
From: ianh1000 [mailto:ianh1000@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 May 2004 22:54
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller

Paul, Why are you not convincing him to buy a new Compaq (HP) box?
Far better quality than Dell...

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "matt_miles_uk" <m_miles@b...>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Thanks for the offer - sorry the reply is not offlist (my email is
> playing up I think).  I would be VERY interested in this - can you
> let me know a price? Manchester is not a problem as I have a friend
> who lives in Hyde.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
> P.S
>
> You can try emailing me if you would prefer!
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "P Murgatroyd"
<yahoogroups@m...>
> wrote:
> > Theres also a very big possibility I will have a ProLiant 5000 to
> get rid of
> > soon too.
> >
> > Its currently an NT4 PDC, running a small (15 users) network for
a
> local
> > business... However, times are now much better and I've convinced
> him buy a
> > new box (Dell PowerEdge 4600, Dual Xeon, 6x73GB drives, etc) to
run
> SBS
> > 2003.
> >
> > The spec of the box is (I think)
> >
> > Pentium Pro 200
> > 384MB RAM
> > 5 (I think) 9.1GB drives
> > 1 4.3GB Drive (boot)
> >
> > Currently configured in RAID 5 and been running for 18 months +
> without
> > problem.  Also installed is a HP 24GB DAT Drive, which he might
> also be
> > willing to part company with (he's got a new DLT drive now)
> >
> > Oh and I'll throw a copy of SmartStart in too :-)
> >
> > Give us a shout if your interested... due to its (massive) size
it
> would
> > have to be picked up from the south Manchester area though.
> >
> > I cant guarantee when it will be available... but it will be
soon!
> >
> > Hth
> >
> > paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nigel Giddings [mailto:nigel.giddings@u...]
> > Sent: 19 May 2004 20:52
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I would recommend this guy
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=3096375985&ssPageNa
> > me=ADME:B:SS:UK:1
> >
> > only problem is that you have to collect, interesting place
though.
> >
> > I've bought 4 units through this guy, no problems and very
helpful.
> >
> > No connection, just a happy customer...
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan @ Home [mailto:jonathan@f...]
> > Sent: 19 May 2004 15:45
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller
> >
> > Computers I'm very good at, Home Automation, on the other hand,
I'm
> > right at
> > the bottom of the learning curve about to delve into the delight
of
> > C-Bus.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: matt_miles_uk [mailto:m_miles@b...]
> > Sent: 19 May 2004 15:14
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller
> >
> > Jonathan youa re a miracle worker!  I think this is exactly what
I
> > need!  Just found out taht my array (3161) is self terminating
and
> > SCSI-IDing so I jsut have to plug it in and it should all work!
yay!
> >
> > Still open to offers of cheap proliants!
> >
> > Cheers everyone,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > P.S
> >
> > I'm sure you didn't lead me up the garden path Ho Yin - I think
> > everyone has a better idea of SCSI than me! :)--- In
> > ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Jonathan @ Home" <jonathan@f...>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/15700.html
> > >
> > > http://www.scsilibrary.com/cable.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: matt_miles_uk [mailto:m_miles@b...]
> > > Sent: 19 May 2004 14:48
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array controller
> > >
> > > The F8 at bootup doesn't seem to work (I am fairly certain
its
> > > software controlled).
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >  --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "matt_miles_uk"
<m_miles@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > they have one long connector on the back (similar to
the
> contacts
> > > on
> > > > a PCI or ISA card.  Guess this means they are SCA? Ho
Yin
says
> I
> > > > should be able to swap pins on the drives but from what
I can
> see
> > > > there aren't any.... hmmm...
> > > >
> > > > I'll try the F8 thing now...
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Jonathan @ Home"
> <jonathan@f...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > When it bots up it should give you the option to
press F8,
> you
> > > then
> > > > get into
> > > > > the SCSI BIOS and you can configure RAID sets in
there.
Well
> > you
> > > do
> > > > on all
> > > > > the Compaqs I've worked on in the last 5 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > As to termination, do your drives have SCA
connectors on
> them?
> > > SCA
> > > > has both
> > > > > the power and the signals through the same
connector as
they
> > are
> > > > designed
> > > > > for Hot Swap bays. Or do they have a separate
MOLEX
connector
> > for
> > > > power?
> > > > > Either way you will need to terminate the end; my
cables
have
> > the
> > > > terminator
> > > > > built in and are from Compaq. I have several of
them but
they
> > > will
> > > > not
> > > > > connect to SCA drives, I have to use adapters to
hook up my
> > > drives.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: matt_miles_uk [mailto:m_miles@b...]
> > > > > Sent: 19 May 2004 14:11
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array
controller
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jonathan,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know it has an Adaptec chip and that it tries to
initialise
> > at
> > > > > bootup.  It then finds no drives (I think this may
have
> > something
> > > > to
> > > > > do with the fact I haven't attached any yet!). 
Windows XP
> has
> > > > > installed it and says its working but I have no
way of
> > > configuring
> > > > it
> > > > > from here on.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe that in order to set up RAID on it some
extra
> > software
> > > is
> > > > > needed...?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to the SCSI thing, if I install a compaq
SCSI array
> do
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > to terminate it? If so how?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Jonathan @ Home"
> > <jonathan@f...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Do any of the chips have any ID on them to
indicate a
> > > > manufacturer?
> > > > > Adaptec?
> > > > > > I have a Compaq RAID controller, I haven't
set mine up
> either
> > > but
> > > > > it is
> > > > > > recognised on boot up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Jonathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: matt_miles_uk [mailto:m_miles@b...]
> > > > > > Sent: 19 May 2004 13:52
> > > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] Compaq Smart-2DH array
controller
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone had any joy installing one of these in
something
> OTHER
> > > > than
> > > > > a
> > > > > > ProLiant?  Reason I'm asking is taht i'm too
skint to buy
a
> > > > > ProLiant
> > > > > > at the moment but have a SCSI array sitting
here with a
2DH
> > > > > > controller card.  Would this work under win2k
or XP
without
> > > being
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a compaq server?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any advice (or drivers, config software etc
appreciated!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Failing that, anyone got an old (cheap)
ProLiant they
want
> to
> > > get
> > > > > rid
> > > > > > of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt
> > > > > >
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