Re: OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling

[Ben McCormack <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Neil

Will a floor scrabbler take the vinyl tiles up or will I need to do=20
that by hand before?

Ben

On 20 Jun 2004, at 17:29, Neil Fuller wrote:

>>> LOL! It seriously plays with your brain that stuff
>
>>> Remember that solvent soaked rags are also very flammable and
in=20
>>> fact the
> vapour will spontaneously combust near heat (The vapour is the=20
> flammable
> bit!).
>
> Your all stark raving bonkers!!!
>
> Not only are the thinners extremely flammable but it is also=20
> carcinogenic!!
> If you don't blow your place half way to kingdom-come you'll die a=20
> horrible
> death in a few years time from some untreatable carcinoma.
>
> Not that I want to be alarmist or anything!!!!
>
> I'd hire a scrabbler and do the job properly, even if it does cost
a=20
> few
> quid more.
>
> Cheers
>
> Neil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Mouser" <groups@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>
>
> LOL! It seriously plays with your brain that stuff. My missus works
in=20
> a
> warehouse full of the stuff all day and that probably accounts for
why=20
> shes
> still married to me ;-)
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 20 June 2004 12:19
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>
>
> Or alternatively just get high and then have a fag...
>
> ;-)
>
> Phil
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Mouser [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 20 June 2004 12:05
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>
>> Yes you are correct, that is very good point. 3M do a very
>> good mask for just this purpose and unlike some is VERY
>> comfortable to wear. I swear by them for dusty/solvent work.
>> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=3D29448&id=3D13038
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Rafferty [mailto:simonr@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 20 June 2004 11:33
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>
>> When Rob says a decent mask, he doesnt mean a crappy paper
>> one from the DIY store. You will need a rubber face mask that
>> takes cartridge filters. Make sure you buy a cartridge
>> suitable for cellulose thinners (there are lots of kinds of
>> cartridges).
>>
>> Simon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rob Mouser" <groups@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 10:42 AM
>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>
>>
>> NO I doubt white spirit would do it. I'm talking Cellulose
>> Thinners. You can
>> buy various grades such as 'standard', 'anti-bloom',
>> 'premium'. You want
>> good old 'standard'. Don't let them try and sell you 'gun
>> wash' that is a
>> VERY low grade solvent that contains too much contaminate and
>> it smells like
>> cats pee!
>> Tetrosyl make standard thinners in 5LTR and 25LTR quantities.
>> (Red tin.)
>> which you should be able to buy from any trade motor factors
>> or they often
>> have their own label brand. Aim to pay around =A310+Vat for
>> 25ltrs as that's
>> an 'average' trade price. However, if you're a 'punter' you
>> might get stung
>> for more :-)
>> If you're near Devon then I can get you some (Our cost is
>> around =A38 from
>> memory.) Its too heavy to ship. Also might be an idea to buy
>> a bale of rags,
>> they always come in handy! Again should need to pay no more
>> than =A310+VAT for
>> low grade coloured cotton rags in 10kg quantities.
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: Don't forget the ventilation and decent mask, this is
evil
>> stuff! Also it is very flammable!!!
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 20 June 2004 10:27
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> When you say thinners what sort do you mean? are we talking white
>> spirit?
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2004, at 09:53, Rob Mouser wrote:
>>
>>> I know I have removed that icky black adhesive left under
>> vinyl tiles
>>> before
>>> with Thinners, but I guess there are different types of
"icky black
>>> gooey"
>>> stuff???
>>> You do need A LOT of thinners though and plenty of rags to
>> mop up the
>>> goo.
>>> Also LOTS & LOTS of ventilation and a decent face mask.
Thinners in
>>> 25ltr
>>> quantities will cost you no more than =A320 from a trade
>> motor factors.
>>> Actually thinking about its probably only a route for the
insane (I
>>> fall
>>> into that camp.).....But HA cheap! :-)
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Neil Fuller [mailto:neil@xxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: 20 June 2004 09:36
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> It depends on the type of glue used as to whether you can tile
>>> straight over
>>> the top or not.
>>>
>>> Some old glues will prevent the new ceramic tile adhesive from
going
>>> off. If
>>> you intend levelling the floor with a latex screed before
>> tiling, you
>>> *must*
>>> lift the old black "gunk"
>>>
>>> The safest bet (although messy and expensive) is to lift the
old
>>> adhesive
>>> using a scrabbler which you can hire from HSS or similar.
>> The machine
>>> basically removes the top mm or 3 of the screed, taking the
old glue
>>> with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Your link was broken and may well have been pointing to a
scrabbler
>>> anyway!
>>> It's a messy job but if you don't want your new ceramic
>> tiles lifting,
>>> it's
>>> probably a good idea to get ride of the old black stuff.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Neil
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ben McCormack" <ben@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Home Automation List" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:02 PM
>>> Subject: [ukha_d] OT : Ceramic Floor Tiling
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I am really hoping that someone can help me here, I have
been
>>>> searching
>>>> deja for ages and I cant fine the answer.
>>>>
>>>> I am intending to tile the kitchen with ceramic tiles.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that we have got hard vinyl tiles down at
>> the moment,
>>>> now I can crape these up but there is still a black tar
>> like residue
>>>> left. Now is it safe to tile over this?
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
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