RE: Re: Automating a combi boiler

["Brian G. Reynolds" <brian.g.reynolds@xxxxxxx>]

Good one,

I am going to have a gander this w/e..if I get time....

B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Billinghurst [mailto:stuart@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 January 2004 05:08
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Automating a combi boiler


This sound like what i was presented with when I went down the same
route.

I've removed the timer, This has four connections 2 for power and 2
switched to turn CH on / off.

I have replaced the timer with a micromodule and a relay,

This gave me two buttons one for on till next off and off till next on,
and a second button that runs a macro in HV to add 1hr to the current
boost time (i.e. if it's 0 it turns on for 1hr (Unless the schedlued
times in HV kick in first.)

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Sent: 19 January 2004 21:51
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Automating a combi boiler


Hi Neil,

At present there is no connection to anything. It has a built in
mechanical clock.

One of the reasons for automating the heating is there is no support for
"boost" so if I manually switch the heating on it stays on till I
remember to re-set it....so what I do in this case is leave the front
cover open to remind me I have changed something that needs changing
back.....

My manual is at work at the moment, I took it to photocopy it but got
sent out on site and did not return to the office....don't you just hate
it when work gets in the way of your private life???

I will have a look...

Thanks also Dave, I will sort it.

B.



-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Ball [mailto:neilball@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 January 2004 10:04
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Automating a combi boiler


Take a look at the boiler wiring info - there should be terminals for a
"Central Heating timeclock" or similar which may have a link in
at
present.
It will require a 240v relay to switch this, but this will enable you to
remote switch the central heating without disturbing the hot water ie
the
boiler remains permanently supplied. All you then need to take care of
is
the thermostatic room control which I assume you're doing through HV or
similar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian G. Reynolds [mailto:brian.g.reynolds@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 02:25
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Automating a combi boiler


Thanks Patrick for the info,

You say "Not sure what else you were expecting" to my comment
below...well I
was expecting to see "connect HV here"!!!

Haven't these boiler makers heard of HV yet? shame on them...

Cheers mate, I will look into this when I get up later...

B.


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Lidstone [mailto:patrick@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 January 2004 13:25
To: ukha_d@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Automating a combi boiler


--- In ukha_d@yahoogroups.com, "Brian G. Reynolds"
<brian.g.reynolds@n...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have recently installed a new "Protherm 100EC" combi and
am well
pleased with it as I now have a shower!!!.
>
> Question is, can I connect an HV controlled relay to the thermostat
wires to automate it instead of a thermostat?
>
> Somehow I doubt it would be this easy but one lives in hope!

Yes, it is this easy. You may want to consider installing a real
thermostat as a backup, and then setting the set-point to a very low
temperature when using your automated control. Your automated control
and the thermostat should be wired to the boiler in parallel. You
should also ensure that your relay is wired such that the contacts
are left open under controller power-fail conditions, otherwise you
could end up cooking if something goes horribly wrong with your HV
controller!

The switching voltage for the thermostat depends on the boiler. You
may well need to use a mains rated relay/cable.

> I assume a thermostat is just a bi-metallic switch of some sort?

This is correct.

> The manual shows a link that must be removed if a thermostat is
fitted but that is all I can see.

Not sure what else you were expecting.


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