RE: Aaarrrrggghhh

["Jon Whiten" <jon@xxxxxxx>]

Graham,

A bog standard analogue BT line (Business or residential) can support ADSL
>from
fixed IP.  They will also allocate a block of 8 (6 usable I believe) IP at
no extra cost at time of order.  No connection with Zen other than having 2
accounts with them.  Incidentally, it looks as if Zen's terms allow a small
office to use their home accounts which makes 1mb the same sort of cost as
business 512k.

Be wary of the Business ADSL product from BT as you may have issues sending
e-mail from anything other than the account that they create for you.  This
was confirmed by our local Business centre a couple of months ago.  I
agree=
,
BT seem to want to screw business over at every opportunity where ADSL is
concerned.


Regards

Jon Whiten
http://www.whiten.co.uk=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Howe [mailto:graham@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Aaarrrrggghhh

I just spent a glorious hour on the phone to BT too. My problem is slightly
different, but no less annoying!

For 6 years I have had nothing but ISDN2e coming in to my house, no
analogu=
e
line at all. Now I can get ADSL, but that of course needs analogue. So, my
choices are as follows:

1. Downgrade the ISDN to analogue, this will be free if I buy BB from BT,
but =A345 if I want to use another supplier.

2. Install a separate analogue line, this will cost =A3100 + VAT
installati=
on
and =A341 + VAT quarterly line rental if I order through Business Sales, or
=A371 inc VAT installation and =A334 inc VAT line rental through
residentia=
l
sales!

Now, if I go with 1, I lose the ability to have 4 telephone numbers (MSN)
which I currently use (Home, Business, Fax, Data) so I can't really go with
that option.

With 2, I am out of pocket on an install and my line rental (already
=A3159=
+
VAT per quarter) is jacked up too. But there are some savings by going
residential rather than business.

But then to add insult to injury BT tell me that the residential line can
not have static IP! What the hell are they talking about, there is no
reaso=
n
for the cost difference anyway other than the fact they like to screw
businesses and now they reckon one line can provide static IP and the other
can't! It's only a bloody wire ffs!

What is actually the case I think is that BT will not sell their Business
B=
B
service to customers who have residential lines and that BT will only give
static Ips to those who buy Business BB. But surely the provision of the
static IP is down to the ISP, not the telco.

So, for the sake of my sanity, can someone please confirm that with a bog
standard BT analogue line, I can have ADSL from another ISP including a
static (or even more than on) IP address.



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