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RE: Autom8it nolonger free?


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  • Subject: RE: Autom8it nolonger free?
  • From: "Dean Smith" <ukha@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:14:52 +0100
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Andy

I know, hence the dollar sign ;-) , plus they were just a few examples.

My point was that HomeSeer is no longer just £60 (as it was when I bought
it
a year ago). It has matured as a product and the price has gone up. You can
now easily spend £150 with a few "big" plug-ins. so considerably
more than
the less mature AutoM8it. Several developments have never appeared
(noticably integrated web/security cam). I'm sure they will alos not be
part
of the core package when finally they're available

The homeseer plug-in distribution makes it unlikely people (new users) will
realise alternative (mostly free) scripts/plug-ins are available -
attention
is drawn to the ease of installation (and in many cases payement) that is
offered via a few clicks.

My fear for HomeSeer (and perhaps AutoM8it in 18months) is that the people
who make these products so useful (to me) are those that add their own code
(of which there are several on this list). The people who pay £150 up front
for software are (arguably) less likely to then muck in with their own code
and distribute that for free. Hence *all* development may need to be done
centrally - requiring further price rises to fund it etc. etc.

I dont have any answers though.....

Deano

-----Original Message-----
From: UKHA [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 29 April 2003 23:50
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Autom8it nolonger free?


Errm, Id just like to point out you are comparing $ prices with £ prices..

Homeseer = 149 USD is 93.44 gbp  ( http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
)
autom8it = 60 gbp

diference being 33 quid...

the media player plugin isn;t required as (I think it was) Paul
Gordon who wrote a script to do this...

Andy

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On 29/04/2003 at 22:53 Dean Smith wrote:

>I'm personally a HomeSeer user. But that is now $150 for a 1.6 licence
and
>$xx for additional plug-ins. e.g.
>
>Official HomeSeer Media Player plug-in = Price: $29.95
>3rd Party plug-in for Messenger/Outlook etc are now between $20 and $30
>each.
>
>It all starts to add-up for new users. Almost all plug-ins need some
>additional scripting to actually leverage their full potential.
>
>My fear is that people who buy $200 S/W are less likely to accept the
>additonal effort required to make it work and then contribute stuff
back
>in.
>HomeSeer (and I assume AutoM8it) offer little (imho) as raw X10
scheduling
>interfaces. They only come alive when *all* your harwdare/software can
>interact.
>
>Deano
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul [mailto:p-gale@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 29 April 2003 22:30
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Autom8it nolonger free?
>
>
>mmm... 60 for the full licence - I also thought it was an ongoing free
app
>:-((
>
>
>
>Not good!
>
>
>
>Paul.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 29 April 2003 20:40
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Autom8it nolonger free?
>
>
>
>UKHA wrote:
>> Do my eyes deceive me? Does autom8it now cost beer tokens? I've
been
>recommending it to people who want to dip their toes in the waters of
HA,
>and as it was free it meant no investment...
>>
>> disappointed of Holland,
>
>No longer free? FFS, I only downloaded some components last week and
>there was certainly no mention that it was going to be charged for!!
>
>Looks like Homeseer will be getting my business after all. I was
willing
>to support Autom8it and offer help in the near future, but it's nowhere
>near ready as a production system for even my moderatley basic needs.
>
>Off to uninstall a certain package from my system.
>
>--
>Calum Morrell
>www.drochaid.org
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