Re: Grand Designs tonight

["Frank Mc Alinden" <armagh@xxxxxxx>]

>but who guarantees that if he spent £100k he would get better job.
>That's the bigger problem...

Theres one guarantee though Nik if you pay the price of  a "Mini"
you
definetly wont be getting a "Rolls Royce"

Having worked in the building industry here in Australia i have to agree
with Dean....

Frank Mc


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:25 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Grand Designs tonight


Yes,
but who guarantees that if he spent £100k he would get better job.
That's the bigger problem...
He used the logic that if it doesn't go well, at least he didn't pay
much. And could order two roofs (£80k) to be safe :-)
When you don't have other criteria to compare the builders, then you use
price.
But he should check their anyway, or write a tight contract because the
colateral damage (delays etc.) cost him almost more then a saving.
Cheers,
Nik


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Barrett [mailto:dean@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 13 March 2003 08:23
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Grand Designs tonight


Unfortunately he fell in to the same trap that much of the construction
industry does - he wanted it on the cheap !!

I've spent the last 20 years in the construction industry on an almost
daily
basis negotiating contract prices. Time and time again developers will
commit themselves to the cheapest price with no concern of the
concequences.
His roof started at100k+ and after 23 companies he got it down to 40+,
where
does he think the other 60k was ?? - was it perhaps that the glue was
going
to be better first time ?? - better fitment etc.

I'm sure the joinery shop was good, but at the end of the day you gets
what
you pay for. It still suprises me how often we hear that the contractor
that
won a job submitted a price only equal to our equipment cost prices...
We do
electrical/data etc. to  2000 houses a year and I doubt there are many 1
man
band working out the back of their van that buy better than we do !!

At the end of the day he was a fool to himself - the industry is already
full of people that think they can bargain and knock down prices and
still
get a good job :(

** Sorry - rant mode off now **



Dean.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mouser [mailto:rmouser@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 13 March 2003 07:33
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Grand Designs tonight


LOL!

Strange guy but hey, brave.
Some of the things he said did ring very true about the building
industry. We've got over 120 staff working in the building industry
and
our business is rectifying their mistakes. His comment:

"the building industry is an open air asylum"

is a fair summary!


Many thanks

Rob Mouser
rmouser@xxxxxxx
rob@xxxxxxx


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 12 March 2003 22:06
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> 'Ones' made a Grand Cock up
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> Pitty we didnt see a finished job but not surprising considering
>
>
> Cheers
> Martin
> -----Original Message-----
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> > PS. What is a  hay ho?
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> A hooker in a straw shed?
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