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Re: RE:Dabs "not exactly helpful"


  • To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: RE:Dabs "not exactly helpful"
  • From: "the_home_automator <db@xxxxxxx>" <db@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 23:10:16 -0000
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--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Ian Lowe" <ian@w...> wrote:
> >Distance selling is going to make e-tailing more risky, and
therefore
> >more expensive.
>
> No, distance selling is going to make e-tailing SAFER for the vast
majority
> of people within the country, who are currently being ripped off by
sharks.
>

The Distance Selling directive has vey little to say on shoddy goods
and rip-offs.

In principle, Ian, we should all already be protected from shoddy or
mis-described goods already, both by Sale of Goods act, and credit
card companies being jointly and severally liable for the goods.

I do agree in pactice (and in several specific cases of folks in this
very dscussion group) this doesnt always work as it should.

What distance selling regulations adds, which is new, is the "right
to cancel".  The net effect of this provision is to (from the
consumers perspective) turn the clock back as though the transaction
had never occured.

>From a retailes perspective, this means that you can to return goods
just because you want to.  Furthermore, you may return the goods at
no cost to yourself.  Thus retailers have to pick up postage costs
both ways, as well as repacking issues etc.

Now in terms of bad goods(or bad retailers) I'm not certain that
there will be any change from the current position  Supplying shoddy
goods was unacceptabe before the new directive came into force, and
sometimes getting satisfaction was problematic. The new directive
will not alter that situation in any material manner.  A bad retailer
is a bad retailer, and will still seek to rip you off.

In terms of honourable businesses, they now have a extra cost to be
absorbed.  There is no doubt that some people will now be usng
internet shopping as an "on approval" type of "purchase", as (if they
use reputable merchants) it is both risk and cost free. 

You could try it.  You could tootle along to letsautomate and order a
homevision or two.  letsautomate dont appear to have a section in
their policies or returns section advising you have a seven day
cooling off period once the goods arrive so (regulation 11.3) you
have three months to cool off, and then return the HV for a full
refund,including postage.  Unless they advise you in writing with the
goods you only have seven days.....  But of course, if this is the
case you could return the HV at the end of the seven day cooling off
period.  Only a week to cool off rather than three months, but long
enough for an evaluation  Free of charge and risk.

In my opinion the Distance Selling directive goes too far in one
direction, and results in an imbalance of cost under some
crcumstances, yet does nothing to help consumers who get ripped off
at the other extreme.









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