RE: OT Discrete Surround Sound Speakers

["Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@xxxxxxx>]

Andy is correct and this exactly the way that the Bose system works, I
know I've used them! ;)

There are several systems around worth having a go at like the KEF's
mentioned (I am a KEF fan), the Eltax range get a good name and they
sound nice IMO and there are plenty others around, best bet is to take
your ears around dealers TBH.

For 5.1/6.1/7.1 the .1, as Mark H quite rightly pointed out, is a
dedicated non-amplified subwoofer output which connects on an RCA
normally and is an "active" sub with its own internal amplifier. = This is
*not* the case with the standard Bose set up, it is passive and meant to fill the bass and mid-range of the satellite speakers "fooling" y= our
ears basically into thinking that the tiny sats are producing a big
sound, it works well where space is tight but there are other systems
which, IMO, now rival or better Bose in this field. Polk, Eltax, Kef are only a few of the options.

TBH, if I were looking at these systems now I would look at the KEF eggs very carefully indeed as they are good looking and sound very nice to my ears for the money. Although Phil was on about a Mirage system which may well be worth a closer look as well. I am also looking at this Mirage
setup for another project but he reckons they were outstanding for the
money.

HTH

K.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Bovingdon [mailto:bov@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 September 2002 13:14
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] OT Discrete Surround Sound Speakers
>
> I believe the BOSE sub takes the mid/low range signals from all
speakers,
> rather than taking the specific .1 bass signal on the DVD. All this > usually
> means is that you need a separate sub to handle the dedicated .1 bass<= BR> > sound. Bose work by using small speakers for directional sound and
> a unified box that deals with mid range and bass. It works fine for > movies,
> however I would not use Bose in larger rooms as it can lack midrange.<= BR> > Bass in small rooms is weak anyway so they work ok. But in a larger > room they can be lacking in power and clarity, tending to distort
quite
> a bit at the higher volumes needed.
>
> But at the end of the day it's down to your ears. See if there are
places
> that will let you home trial them - there is no way to see which
sounds
> best otherwise, as their demo room will be totally different
acoustically
> to your room.
>
> I would agree that you should check out the other options, like KEF etc
> as I find Bose to be very expensive for what is mediocre quality. Also=
> try some of the in ceiling options for surround.
>
>
>
> > At the weekend I was in a HiFi shop in Windsor and was talking wi= th
> > the sales chap about the BOSE system and was told that it was
> > completely useless for watching DVD's as the bass module was not<= BR> > > active and therefore would not know what sounds were supposed to = be
> > produced by the subwoofer and which were just normal bass signals= .
> >
> > I am not sure I understand his logic, in that surely that process= ing
> > would be done by any half decent modern AV amplifier which would<= BR> have
> > seperate outputs for each of the 6 speakers, or am I missing
> > something peculiar about the way the bose system works/ is wired.=
> >
> > BOSE's own advetising materials suggest that the product is targe= ted
> > at home cinema use but the shop didn't, they did of course have a=
> > solution to the problem in the form of Accoustimass 15 speakers f= or
> > another 400 quid!
> >
> > I wouldn't have bought them from him anyway as they are way cheap= er
> > from a number of places in What Hifi and even BOSE themselves at<= BR> > > their Bicester shopping village outlet which also had some very n= ice
> > Crestron panels on display.
> >
> > The speakers will also have to double as HiFi speakers and capabl= e
of
> > dealing with everything from Trance to classical, our movie watch= ing
> > habits are equally varied.
> >
> > Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > P.S. If anyone has any recommendations as to the best AV amplifie= r
to
> > go with them please let me know, ideally =A3400 to =A3600.
> >
> >
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