RE: [OT] ms backup tape problem

["Dr John Tankard" <john@xxxxxxx>]

I will un-install ms backup then do a re-install

I feal a bit better now

Thanks All

I will try that in the morning


John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Cundall (Groups) [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 06 November 2002 20:48
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> 
> 
> Arcserve and Backup Exec like to install their own tape 
> device drivers and take complete control of the tape device - 
> you problem may lie there.
> 
> Christian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr John Tankard [mailto:john@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 06 November 2002 20:36
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> 
> 
> 
> > Same service pack level as when the backup was done?
> 
> Yes
> > ]
> > Does the tape device show up under "Removable Media" in
computer 
> > management?
> 
> I did not think of that... Yes its there should I try to monut it
> 
> 
> >
> > I am grasping at straws, but it sounds like you are too...
> 
> Yes I am, sql backup reads the tape and reports the session 
> it wont read the data because its not a sql backup, I am now 
> getting a bit more happy that the data is there.
> 
> There is one other thing I did.... I temporaly installd 
> arcserve to copy a arcserve tape before it put it into the 
> server, I then un-installed arcserve, I wonder if that has 
> screwed it up
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I  MCDBA
> > David Clark Company Inc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr John Tankard [mailto:john@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:13 PM
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> >
> >
> > Yep it instantly returns, again the tape drive does not move. I
am 
> > just tryint to read the tape using backup in sql server that is
> > looking at the tape at the momemt it's a dds4 so it might take
some 
> > time, I know I cannt use it to restore but if it finds the 
> session I 
> > will be a bit happier
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sullivan, Glenn [mailto:GSullivan@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 06 November 2002 20:07
> > > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Have you tried to go under the tools menu and choose the
catalog 
> > > option?
> > >
> > > That should scan the backup set and generate a file 
> catalog for you.
> > >
> > > Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I  MCDBA
> > > David Clark Company Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dr John Tankard [mailto:john@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:00 PM
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> > >
> > >
> > > No both servers are w2k
> > >
> > > I think the problem is ms backup is not looking at the
tape
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sullivan, Glenn [mailto:GSullivan@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 06 November 2002 19:50
> > > > To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You didn't switch OS's on the server did you?  I
found 
> out a long 
> > > > time ago that MSBackup for Win2K will not restore
tapes
> > created in
> > > > MSBackup for WinNT4...
> > > >
> > > > Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I  MCDBA
> > > > David Clark Company Inc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dr John Tankard [mailto:john@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:37 PM
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] ms backup tape problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been fixing a sick server and hit a snag.
> > > >
> > > > Got a dead server from a customer, they don't have
a
> > receint backup
> > > > and no ups :-o
> > > >
> > > > To cut a long story short, I have taken the stuffed
disk
> > and put it
> > > > into my server use MS backup and dumped it to dat DSS4
> tape, log 
> > > > reports a good copy.
> > > >
> > > > I have re-installed w2kServer onto the disk, then
> > installed arcserve
> > > > onto the new server then recoverd the system setup, and
all 
> > > > directories. Up to this point all ok. The server
> > re-booted and looks
> > > > almost normal, 1 problem sql server will not start,
because it 
> > > > cannot see its data. (and the sql agent cannot copy the
> data back 
> > > > because sql is not running) so my plan was now to
return
> > the drive
> > > > to my server use the msbackup to copy back the sql data
> and logs.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the problem
> > > >
> > > > When I go into ms backup select restore, select the
> tape I want I 
> > > > see a folder with a ? Mark in it x2 click does
nothing
> > but flash dlg
> > > > box up so fast I cannot see it, if I try a restore all
again 
> > > > nothing. I am beginning to think there is a problem
with
> > the backup
> > > > set (the data on the disk might be stuffed anyway but
I
> > would like
> > > > to give it a go)
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas
> > > >
> > > > 1) how to read the ms backup tape
> > > >
> > > > 2) use arcserve to restore the data in a form I can
copy
> > back, and
> > > > then start sql server.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I do have sql server 2000 sp3 on my server but the
> > customers server
> > > > looks like sp1 to me, I don't want to restore customer
> master to 
> > > > mine and stuff mine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
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