Mail formats

["Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>]

Andy,

You start from the presumption that all our list members have the choice of
mail formats.


Many people on this list do have the choice of format's for their
posts.

Several people on this list DO NOT have the choice of format's for their
posts - they are imposed by either the mail system, or their company's
policy.

Example: When I'm out of the office - I use Outlook Web Access XP - OWA-XP
_only_ supports HTML posts. There is no option to change to plain text.

Example: My wife's company has a mail relay that intercepts all outgoing
mail, and adds a disclaimer. The software is, in my view, nasty, and in
addition to adding the disclaimer, it converts the format to HTML.

Regards,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Laurence [mailto:andy@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 6 November 2002 10:00
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Fwd: The Early Xmas Shoppers Promotion


On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Timothy Morris wrote:
> > From: Mark Hetherington
> > might even have killed all HTML email to the list (which seems
more
> likely
> > than a certain HTML email advocate converting to plain text
after
> > consistently changing a plain text thread to HTML). Given that
this
> > addresses certain concerns of certain members, I hope that the
current
> 
> This slimy type of insinuation is the one thing that I really don't
like
> about this list, for some reason they seem to come from linux users
more
> often than not (see what it's like?)
> 
> If you want to have a dig, why not come out and have a dig rather
than
> try to be sly. It wasn't me that converted everything to html it
was
> yahoo. Rich text still has huge advantages, and if you can't see
them
> then perhaps a visit to the opticians is necessary. I remember the
days
> when Wordstar 1.2 was considered to be the Nirvana of wp programs,
and
> that didn't even show bold test on screen.

I'm going to say very little on this, as it'll spark a war, if I say 
anymore.  I won't reply after this.  Rich text has just the
advantage of 
formatting.  Whilt this is good for sending colourful spams, it's of
no 
use on this list.  This list generates considerable bandwidth. 
99% of it 
is text, with just the odd post, such as the Maplin advert yesterday being
anything more.  Rich text has considerably more overhead than plain
text.  
As we don't need pretty colours for the information in the text, rich text
is redundant, IMO.

If everyone was to post in plain text, we would save considerable 
bandwidth, which ultimately would result in less time collecting
mail.  
This wouldn't make the slightest difference to us broadband users, but 
would make a difference to 56kbps users, and especially mobile users. 
Have you seen the price of GPRS, and the speed of GSM?  I recently
spent 
around 8 minutes just downloading headers via GSM.  There was no way I
was 
going to do any more than that!

I'd urge people not to respond to this, as I think we all know eachother's
views.

Andy (crawling under stone)
-- 
Building a wireless community network for Bristol
http://consume.andylaurence.co.uk/
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NB: Alternate E-Mail - andylaurence at yahoo dot co dot uk



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