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RE: Fwd: The Early Xmas Shoppers Promotion


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  • Subject: RE: Fwd: The Early Xmas Shoppers Promotion
  • From: "Mark Hetherington" <mark.egroups@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:47:09 -0000
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Kenneth Watt wrote:
> Sorry guys, but due to the w32.bugbear virus, amongst others,
> attachments were taken off the options list for UKHA_D. :/

I actually prefer it this way since it lowers the size overhead of the
list.
This benefits those of us who cannot get broadband and an always on
connection since it cuts down on a lot of "crap" such as
pointless graphical
sigs which are 10 times the size of the "me too" post they so
often
accompany. Many ISP provided mailboxes have a size limit so as well as
reducing download time, the lack of attachments reduces ISP issues.

As another welcome side effect, it seems to kill HTML adverts from Yahoo
and
might even have killed all HTML email to the list (which seems more likely
than a certain HTML email advocate converting to plain text after
consistently changing a plain text thread to HTML). Given that this
addresses certain concerns of certain members, I hope that the current
setting can continue even after the threat of bugbear has passed. Even
those
advocates of HTML email must agree that the loss of the associated HTML
advertising is a bonus despite whatever they see as an advantage.

> The problem being that if you allow them then the group could be virus
> infested as well as spammed, if you don't then the genuine files that
> should be shared do not get distributed. Yet again, you can't please
all
> the people all the time but, IMO, virus free is better! ;)

I do think the notice [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
(which I have been seeing for a while but never had time to investigate) is
not exactly user friendly so it would have been worth announcing when
implemented, but AFAICT, I only once missed anything that might have
mattered which must have been at the point of change since other people
replied to the attached email. Maybe when a change to the options of the
list such as this that affects us all is made, the person that makes it
could announce it.

IMHO, if it can be attached and it felt useful to the group, it can and
ought to be uploaded to the files area. A bit of text from another email,
can easily be pasted rather than attached which actually makes it smaller
since there is no MIME overhead. For those people finding the problem
occuring on an appropriate  forward, if you convert to plain text before
sending, it becomes a single text message rather than a MIME attachment so
it should work without cut and paste. If you have a client such as Outlook
or Outlook Express with a default setting of HTML, this is just a mouse
movement to the Format menu of the message (or Alt O on keyboard to select
it) then select the option of 'Plain Text'. Users of other clients tend to
use plain text but there will be a similar option available in the event it
is configured to HTML.


Mark.

P.S. If anyone has the BugBear virus available, I would appreciate a copy
of
it. In the past a Linux using list member has provided me with such things
which has helped ensure it has not been an issue on delivery locally. If
sending from a Windows system please zip the virus to provide sufficient
quarantine from my mail server to prevent it bouncing.



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