RE: Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins

["Mark Harrison" <Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>]

Ian,

I'm not talking about "most of us". I'm talking about me :-)

I want a PVR, and I am trying to work out which route to go... SS or TiVo..= .

I have a server running 24x7, but it's only a P2-300, and already runs HA, = a database, and Jrec. AIUI, it doesn't have the capacity to add SS as well.=

If you can build a server to do TiVo-equivalent for =A3400, the please tell= me how... don't just tell me your routinely do it and leave me hanging :-)=

I assume that you build from components? Where do you get them, and what wo= uld you recommend... The ATI AIW 128 presumably? But what about M/Bs, CPUs,= HDD these days? It's been 7 years since I actually _built_ a PC :-)

M.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 May 2002 00:25
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins

Gotta jump in here a second Mark.

Remember most of us have a server running 24x7 anyway. all I did to add SS<= BR> to my curent setup was change the graphics card in my server from a no-name=
to an ATI AIW 128.

Showshifter has some issues on my server, so It's not a perfect example, bu= t
the point of the example is the same: The SS box does not need to be
dedicated.

Thing is, even at that, I suspect it could be done quite easily. I routinel= y
build sub =A3300 1Ghz PC systems for clients.

my main gripe is that Neither Tivo nor SS actually do what I want.

I want the dumb useability of a VCR, which Tivo seems much better at, but I=
also want to be able to sit at my PC watching what I have "taped"= in a
window whilst I surf. I experimented with SS straight to AVI, and it's as buggy as hell (in previous builds), but then Tivo doesn't seem able to do i= t
at all...

Personally, I suspect that a PC solution will be the way to go, Simply
because I can't see the "content industry" ever allowing a device= which
would meet my needs to actually come to market. just witness the hell that<= BR> replayTV are going through...

Ian.




-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 May 2002 00:12
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins

Amar,

Can you post a link to what bits you bought, please?

If I can build a Showshifter PC for =A3400 (cost of Tivo + Sub), then I'm interested....


-----Original Message-----
From: Amar Nagi [mailto:amar@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 May 2002 00:08
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins

I really thing you guys going on about tivo have lost the plot.
You seem to miss that a lot of the people that have opted
For showshifter or something very similar is PRICE!

It has been said enough times that a lot of the decisions
are based on PRICE. So no matter how much you go on about
how good it is it makes little sense when the is a big price
difference between the two.

Lets just leave the subject now, I think all have got the picture :-)



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 May 2002 22:34
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins
Vince,

Again, I'm looking for opinions of people who've tried both?

What's better about it than Tivo?

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vince [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 May 2002 22:29
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: [ukha_d] Showshifter vs. Tivo - the final score, Sky + Wins


At 21:50 24/05/02, you wrote:
>For those who don't want to wade through

100 messages, here's the headlines:
>
>- Everyone who has used Tivo thinks it's fantastic
>- Those who have used both Showshifter and Tivo think that Tivo is far<= BR> >superior
>- Those who've never used Tivo think it can't be as good as Showshifter=
>
>Hmmm..... whose opinion would you trust?
>
>Personally, I'm waiting for ReplayTV :-)

And those with Sky + wouldn't swap it for either of the above.

Vince




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