RE: ShowShifter vs. TiVo

["Don McAllister" <donmc@xxxxxxx>]

Oops..  just posted this on the TurboNet group, Best post it here as
well:-)

==============================================================

Well then, looks like it's cracked then. Managed today to get my first
viable SVCD from a TiVo extraction with audio and everything :-)
Quality
looks good!! It produces very stable mpeg files that are viewable via
PowerDVD and pretty much every player I've thrown it at ie WindowsMedia
Player, ATI media player, Real Player, etc. The problem with the mp2
extraction using the TiVoapp package was just too flaky although nice
and
simple.

The downside is the method I had to use is that it's pretty laborious
and
processor intensive but it does seem to produce excellent results. 

I can't take any credit for it, but by using various combinations of
crib
sheets and help from the ExtractStream forum I seems to work. One of
the
main problems was that 90% of the Tivo extraction tools are meant for
US
Tivos not UK PAL TiVos. Apparently the streams are different and
consequently need to be handled differently.

I'll do some more playing over the weekend and write up a complete
breakdown
of the steps I went through. Be warned - fast PC and some overnight
batch
running will be required :-)

Cheers
Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben.mccormack@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 14:10
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ShowShifter vs. TiVo

Take a look at the tivo bulk buy group,

Here is  Don's Summary of the situation

Just a quick note before everyone jumps into the bulk buy. 

As you are aware the TurboNet card gives you access via the LAN for the
Tivo. 

TivoWeb, Telnet and FTP all work great and are reason enough to get the
card.

Despite Justins success I am struggling trying to get a stable and
repeatable video extraction method. When it works, it works great, but
there is a considerable amount of hand crafting to do. 

I just don't want people buying this card with the expectation that
Video Extraction is an out of the box function. It isn't. You will need
to put some effort in but it is good fun if frustrating. I've learnt
more about mpeg in the last few days than I have in the past 12 months,
along with the may mpeg tools out there. Besides, I would hope we can
move this on once we have 10+ ukhas all trying different methods.

Cheers
Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Amar Nagi [mailto:amar@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 14:01
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ShowShifter vs. TiVo
one question i do have about tivo is
wha format does it save the file in.
and can you transfer that file to a pc
and then burnit on a cd as a vcd ?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben McCormack [mailto:ben.mccormack@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Fri 24/05/2002 13:54 
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ShowShifter vs. TiVo
John Lewis, they seem to have them in stock at £229
Or
Dixons in Norwich, display model for £184

I want one too

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Booth [mailto:stuart@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 May 2002 13:42
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ShowShifter vs. TiVo


On 24 May 02, at 13:21, Kenneth Watt wrote:

> The cost I don't think is very high
> for what TiVo actually does and I can almost guarantee that if you
use

> one for a week you will probably never watch an off-air broadcast
> again!

PLEASE STOP IT !! All of you !!! :-)))

Yes, I want one, but manfully resisted the earlier cheap price
offers. Now I'm caving in *again* !!

So, where's the best place to get one today?

Grrrrr,

S

PS - is there any sign of TiVo 2? I had wondered if that was the
reason for the cheap prices previously, which had helped me resist.


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