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RE: New, silly project?


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  • Subject: RE: New, silly project?
  • From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:05:11 +0100
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O.K.
We are looking for the smallest power supply then. Sound is not a big issue,
but they claim that Via doesn't need fans anyway. I am not sure if that
applies to processor only, or PSU as well. I would say proc only, they don't
know what kind of PSU I will put.
Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 May 2002 17:53
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New, silly project?


Nik,

Unless VIA boards are wildly different from normal PC boards (which is, of
course, possible), they will need a PSU each. It's not to do with power
requirements, it's to do with the way that signalling works between the PSU
and the motherboard...

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic [mailto:nikola@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 May 2002 17:50
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New, silly project?


Huh, I would take this as "thumbs up" for the idea.
Since home automation is running 24/7 and there will be some tasks scheduled
for overnight, I don't know if there is any point using Power Saving
features, or there is.
Also, if machine goes into standby or hybernates, it will take a while for
it to react to commands and wake up. Bearing that in mind and disabling any
power saving, would it then still be able to share power supply. VIA boards
even have TV out so they can be used for Keith's video server, or to display
monitor screen on TV (although I never saw one being good enough, for my
taste).
Let's see what Via Project guys come up with regarding small PSU.

BTW, at the moment, I don't have any monitor in my node0. I use PC Anywhere
to see what's going on on my server.
Is there anything similar on Linux platform?
Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 May 2002 17:34
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New, silly project?



You'd need two PSUs, since PSUs these days are "intelligent" and need to
babble to the (single) motherboard a lot.

Sharing keyboard, mouse and monitor is something I already do with a
traditional external switch.

Sharing a CD - well - actually, I already do this, by the simple expedient
of only having one, and using network-sharing to mount files.

Sharing a case.... that's cool.... It doesn't strike me as silly at all. It
strikes me as very clever...


M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic [mailto:nikola@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 May 2002 17:25
To: Home automation (E-mail)
Subject: [ukha_d] New, silly project?



I am thinking about this for a quite a while:
I live in a flat and I have a limited space in cupboard for node 0. I
suppose that there are more members in similar situation. I brought my ADSL
line there, hub, patching panel, UPS modem and server running 24/7. Now, I
would like to start using Linux, but I don't know much about it, so I'll
have to install it on another server and gradually move services from
Windows platform. Also, I'll have to learn along the way and anyway,
probably I will never be able to get rid of windows completely because some
programs exist on Windows platform only.
That means that I'll end up with one more server in my rack cabinet, and I
don't have a space for it.
When I was looking how to rack mount my current PC in cabinet I found that
rack mountable PC case was £250, the cheapest I was able to find, so I
bought a shelf instead and put a PC in normal, cheap case on the shelf.
All this resulted in idea using one, rack mountable, cheap cases from Maplin
(£30-40) and putting two small motherboards inside (like Via ones). Then I
can save on CD, keyb, mouse etc, if I use everything on USB and use some
cheap switch, like Belkin one. Most of those devices (CD, floppy, keyb etc)
I use very rarely on the servers, so there's no point having them in double.

I am keeping an eye on Via project and waiting for the first impressions and
problems that the guys will face (heating and similar).

Now I would like you to tell me why this idea is silly and will not work
(because I haven't seen anything similar before, but someone needs to be the
first).

Cheers,

Nik



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