RE: RE: was BabyCam now hacking

["James, Daniel" <daniel.james@xxxxxxx>]

:-)

Mad, most definitely :-)

but its a bit of a chicken and egg situation sometimes...

need patches to connect to internet, where are the patches on the internet
:-)




-----Original Message-----
From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:tony.butler@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 March 2002 12:26
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: was BabyCam now hacking


Okay.  I'll shut up now shall I? :)

(and yes, you _were_ mad!)

Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James, Daniel [mailto:daniel.james@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 14 March 2002 11:37
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: was BabyCam now hacking
>
>
> Let me rephrase this........
>
> I have been hacked, and had changes made to IIS on my
> machine, yes I was mad
> to connect to ADSL on an unpatched Win2k workstation, with no
> firewall, but
> its easily done.............
>
> It was attacked within 2 hours of being put online, one
> evening whilst I was
> in the midst of building and configuring it, ironic really as I was
> downloading patches, firewall software and anti virus
> software updates to
> install on it.
>
> It *DOES* happen!!
>
> Thankfully, there are solutions, but it does highlight the
> problems, and it
> seems that script kiddies love to play around.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BUTLER, Tony, FM [mailto:tony.butler@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 14 March 2002 11:28
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] RE: was BabyCam now hacking
>
>
> I meant who would specifically target your machine.
>
> I use a broadband router which blocks most of that crap automatically.
>
> Anyone can get a little port scanning proggie, but knowing
> port 5238 is open
> on your machine & it not responding to any 'standard'
> protocol messages like
> it was a telnet/ftp/http port, who is going really to bother
> putting effort
> into hacking your system when
> a) there are loads of unprotected PC's out there broadcasting netbios
> messages and
> b) port 5238 is also open on bigcompany.com's site - so much more
> interesting than yet-another-cable-modem-user.com's network :-)
>
> A little bit of paranoia never hurt anyone, I just think,
> realistically,
> there's no need to go OTT for most 'normal' people.
>
>
> Tony
>
> "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out
> to get you" :-]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee [mailto:lee@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 14 March 2002 11:06
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] RE: was BabyCam now hacking
> >
> >
> > >>who would bother
> > >
> > > unfortunately, loads of people, its easier prey than
> > corporate sites.
> > >
> > > I had a number of attacks within a couple of hours of
installing
> > > ADSL.....
> >
> > As Daniel said "Loads of people". When I was using the
> > Alcatel USB frog and
> > ZoneAlarm, there there hundreds of dodgy connections to my
> > server every
> > day, including attempted NetBIOS connections...
> > Now there is no-way anybody 'accidently' tries a NB
> > connection, it's script
> > kiddies running IP scans...
> >
> > It rapidly got to the point where I turned the ZA logging off
> > and just let
> > it silently block the attempts.
> >
> > All the time and care that you've taken to set up your system
> > and the lorry
> > loads of software on it can be trashed in minutes by the
> s'kiddies, so
> > let's be carefull out there... :)
> >
> > Lee.
> >
> >
> >
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