Re: ShowShifter on TiVo

["Jason Lee" <jasonjlee@xxxxxxx>]

OK.

To get quality close to Tivo is gonna take alot of time and guesswork..

What is the capture source? Most pc tv tuners require a very good source
to
start with?

ATI cards usually have a good tv out.

Firstly, whats the wintv cards picture like on a monitor?
Have you tried the different driver modes?

Have you tried dscaler by itself?

I would guess that the issue is with the tv out rather than the
capture.

Which ati card is it exactly?

You might want to mail me directly to save everyone suffering thru our
discussion.

Jason


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ShowShifter on TiVo


> Jason,
> I see that you experimented a lot with graphic cards. What should I
pay
> attention to, when buying one with TV out.
> The similar question applies to TV capture cards.
> I currently have Hauppauge WinTV Go and some SuperGrace (ATI based)
VGA
with
> TV out card, but I'm not happy with either.
> What kind of cards I need to buy to get kind of picture quality
compared
to
> TiVo?
> If I have such cards and want to input RF and play it on TV, I asume
that
> signal is converted PAL->VGA->PAL and quality suffers.
> Is it possible to preserve image in PAL format without any
conversion?
> Nik
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jason Lee [mailto:jasonjlee@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 06 June 2002 12:14
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_d] ShowShifter on TiVo
>
>
>   I would say that depends on the card you are using in the
pc!
>
>   Tivo uses rgb IF you have it as input and output. On my
config, which is
> ntl
>   digital the input is rgb. To my semi trained eye, on a
good tv set, rgb
is
>   clearer than any other signal, which is only logical.
>
>   This quality difference is most noticeable on computer
generated
screens.
>   Like menus in the guide, or a windows pc on a tv. It does
make
interlacing
>   more obvious however.
>
>   For example, matrox g400 dual head cards have 3 possible
outputs.
> composite
>   s-video and scart rgb (if you make the cable
yourself).
>
>   Scart rgb gives a *MUCH* sharper picture then anthing
else, on computer
> type
>   screens.
>
>   There is nothing sub pro capture prices that I can find
that will
CAPTURE
>   with scart rgb like the tivo does. pc based that can
capture in scart
rgb.
>
>   That accepted, with a good card the tv output quality can
be close.
>
>   The advantage of Tivo is the interface. and the watch
while record, and
> the
>   on screen overlays, which are all fixable in showshifter
if it gets
there
> in
>   time.
>
>   The reason I bought the Tivo is to compare the two. So far
after the
2.5.x
>   upgrade Tivo does a very good job.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
>   To: "Home automation (E-mail)"
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>   Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:39 AM
>   Subject: [ukha_d] ShowShifter on TiVo
>
>
>   > Did anyone tried to install ShowShifter on TiVo?
>   > I think that TiVo box is a PC in fact. I just wonder
if it would be
>   possiblejj
>   > to put blank HDD install Windows and SS just to
compare the picture
>   quality.
>   > I always wondered if TiVo has better picture because
of hardware, or
>   > software.
>   > And what kind of PC TiVo is? Or it's not?
>   > Nik
>   >
>
>
>
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