RE: ShowShifter on TiVo

["Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>]

Jason,

I see that you experimented a lot with graphic cards. What should I pay attention to, when buying one with TV out.

The similar question applies to TV capture cards.

I currently have Hauppauge WinTV Go and some SuperGrace (ATI based) VGA with TV out card, but I'm not happy with either.

What kind of cards I need to buy to get kind of picture quality compared to TiVo?

If I have such cards and want to input RF and play it on TV, I asume that signal is converted PAL->VGA->PAL and quality suffers.

Is it possible to preserve image in PAL format without any conversion?

Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Lee [mailto:jasonjlee@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 06 June 2002 12:14
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: Re: [ukha_d] ShowShifter on TiVo

I would say that depends on the card you are using in the pc!

Tivo uses rgb IF you have it as input and output. On my config, which is ntl
digital the input is rgb. To my semi trained eye, on a good tv set, rgb is
clearer than any other signal, which is only logical.

This quality difference is most noticeable on computer generated screens.
Like menus in the guide, or a windows pc on a tv. It does make interlacing
more obvious however.

For example, matrox g400 dual head cards have 3 possible outputs. composite
s-video and scart rgb (if you make the cable yourself).

Scart rgb gives a *MUCH* sharper picture then anthing else, on computer type
screens.

There is nothing sub pro capture prices that I can find that will CAPTURE
with scart rgb like the tivo does. pc based that can capture in scart rgb.

That accepted, with a good card the tv output quality can be close.

The advantage of Tivo is the interface. and the watch while record, and the
on screen overlays, which are all fixable in showshifter if it gets there in
time.

The reason I bought the Tivo is to compare the two. So far after the 2.5.x
upgrade Tivo does a very good job.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
To: "Home automation (E-mail)" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [ukha_d] ShowShifter on TiVo


> Did anyone tried to install ShowShifter on TiVo?
> I think that TiVo box is a PC in fact. I just wonder if it would be
possiblejj
> to put blank HDD install Windows and SS just to compare the picture
quality.
> I always wondered if TiVo has better picture because of hardware, or
> software.
> And what kind of PC TiVo is? Or it's not?
> Nik
>



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