RE: legal advice / Bulk Buys

["BUTLER, Tony, FM" <tony.butler@xxxxxxx>]

Could be good.  
Runs the risk of the 'normal' group being a 2nd class group.
Also, if you only ever took part in a low cost bulk buy, the =A310 to
gain<=
BR>
access to that could negate the savings.
If the group is self funded - in that a % is added to any BB price to
cover=
admin etc, then you only ever pay that when you are buying something, it
is=
built into the dicounted price, and you don't need 2 tier UKHA
membership.<=
BR>
I'd spend a tenner alright because I can see me buying other toys before
th=
e
year is out, but not everyone would - thus you go from representing
'potentially 600 customers' to representing the, say 50 or so who stump
up<=
BR>
the case - doesn't sound nearly so impressive at the negotiating table
now<=
BR>
does it?

Tony


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Bond [mailto:chris@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 30 May 2002 13:46
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] legal advice / Bulk Buys
> 
> 
> Im all for this idea :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Fuell" <form@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] legal advice / Bulk Buys
> 
> 
> > I know this goes against the reason UKHA_D was probably 
> set-up but how
> > would people feel about creating a more formal link between
membe=
rs?
> >
> > I've read the various mails on the above subjects today and 
> wonder whether
> > there is a need for a Home Automator's Association? I'm not one
f=
or
> > committees, sub-committees etc, but I have been and still 
> am part of a few
> > that manage quite happily via email communication. Of the 
> top of my head
> > sitting here I'm wondering whether a more formal 
> association could be
> > set-up to serve home automators, that could negotiate 
> bulk-buys on a more
> > formal footing, could organise cheap insurance, could act 
> as a lobby group
> > / voice for Home Automators.
> >
> > I don't want to scare anybody off by going all political, 
> but as Mark
> > Harrison pointed out in an earlier mail manufacturers are 
> becoming more
> and
> > more aware of the potential of this group and a more formal 
> approach could
> > help in the bargaining stakes. From my own experience too, 
> once you have a
> > more formal standing you can often get experts to offer 
> their advice for
> > free in return for publicity, notably those from the legal 
> profession.
> >
> > I'm a relative newbie to the group so I don't want to step 
> on anybody's
> > toes, but I would be willing to help co-ordinate setting 
> something like
> the
> > above up or offer advice.
> >
> > For example a 10GBP annual fee could be paid via paypal or 
> similar for
> > which you become a member of HAA. Membership entitles you 
> to access to
> > bulk-buys and any other offers organised with manufacturers,
etc.=
> > Membership fees could go towards purchasing some sort of 
> insurance scheme
> > for bulk-buys, organising meets, etc. I wouldn't suggest 
> closing this list
> > to members only, but membership should bring benefits not 
> available to
> > other members of the public.
> >
> > Figures, ideas etc are, as I said off the top of my head, 
> so I'm sure have
> > many pitfalls. I also like the informal nature of this group and
=
the
> > hands-across-the-water type philosophy, so would understand 
> if you want to
> > shoot me down in flames for suggesting a more formal 
> grouping. I just
> think
> > that even since the short-while I have been lurking her, I 
> have noticed
> the
> > snowball in actitivy and good work the group is doing so 
> why not harness
> > that and give ourselves another step-up? Home Automators in 
> the UK are
> > always moaning manufacturers don't pay any attention to our 
> needs, so now
> > is possibly our chance to show our might.
> >
> > All opinions and thoughts most welcomed
> >
> > Tim Fuell
> >
> >
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