RE: Re: Speakers for announcements

["Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>]

Just before I click on "buy", can someone confirm that this 79 strand is O.K?

And why clear housing is more expensive than black? Where's the catch? Which housing is better?

Cheers,

Nik

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 -----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic [mailto:nikola@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 July 2002 14:12
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements

And I live in a flat, not in a house. And I have concrete ceiling in most of the rooms, so no drilling possible.

It seems that I'll definitly go for a single cable.

I found this one as the cheapest at Richer Sounds:

Gale XL 105

£	0	.69

 

It seems that this is 105 strand. Is this still a bit OTT?

Nik

[Nikola Kasic]  -----Original Message-----
From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 July 2002 13:16
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements

Yes - I had all this + loads of CAT5, power for all lighting going
to loft to LD11's (over 40). I had to drill 7 new access holes
through each of the many joists in the main run (upstairs landing
running across the house) with a 35mm Auger bit. That's a lot of
work and a lot of pulling cables.


--- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
> The problem is thickness. I'll run not only speaker cables, but
microphone,
> IR tx, IR rx, PIR and possibly door contacts all in single go. So
where all
> those cables join, It will be very thick. If I go for one instead
of two, I
> am saving bunch of 7 cables, which can be very thick at the end.
>
> Nik
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
>   Sent: 14 July 2002 12:12
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements
>
>
>   For the sake of a few quid, I'd definately run a pair of cables
to
>   each speaker location and coil up the unused one (long enough to
>   reach wherever you could put an additional speaker). Depends on
how
>   easy the cable running is though - if it's easy to run additional
>   cable in the future, you might not want to bother now and save
the
>   few pounds.
>
>   I can't see any reason for running more than 2 cables.
>
>
>   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
>   > Thanks Paul,
>   > I'll go with your advice and put some better quality ones, so
if I
>   want
>   > better quality sound in some later stage, in e.g. bedroom, I'll
>   just buy
>   > better quality speaker for that room.
>   > I am still glad to know that even putting lower quality cable
>   would work
>   > fine. That gives a bit of redundancy.
>   > What do you think, is one cable enough?
>   > For announcements it should be. If I want to switch to stereo
>   music later,
>   > placement of speakers is important, I suppose, for re-creating
>   sound stage.
>   > Therefore, there's no point planning anything like that,
because,
>   I don't
>   > have much options regarding placement.
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   > Nik
>   >
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
>   >   Sent: 14 July 2002 11:15
>   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>   >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements
>   >
>   >
>   >   Putting in good quality cable at this stage would be a good
>   idea -
>   >   even if you initially use cheap speakers for just
announcements
>   and
>   >   TTS etc - you can then upgrade in the future if you want,
without
>   >   having to re-cable.
>   >
>   >   Don't have any recommendations for cheaper speakers though.
>   >
>   >   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
>   >   > No, this is new development, so they make lower ceiling to
>   squeeze
>   >   as much
>   >   > floors as possible. :-).
>   >   > So, how will I know that speakers are good enough?
>   >   > I'll go for hi-fi speaker cables then, probably from Richer
>   Sounds.
>   >   > Any recommendations, but not too expensive?
>   >   > Nik
>   >   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   >   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
>   >   >   Sent: 13 July 2002 22:06
>   >   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>   >   >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   Even if you go for KAT5 (As I have done also), you'll
still
>   need
>   >   the
>   >   >   same kit - amp(s), speaker cable and speakers.
>   >   >
>   >   >   My speaker cable is not shielded - it runs through the
floor
>   >   (long
>   >   >   runs) and crosses mains in several places (a lot of extra
>   mains
>   >   >   wiring for the X10 lighting - all runs to the loft to
>   LD11's).
>   >   I've
>   >   >   not had any noise problems - audio is very clear.
>   >   >
>   >   >   Are you living in a bunker by any chance ;)
>   >   >
>   >   >   Paul.
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
>   >   >   > Ha, in most of the rooms ceiling is concrete. Only the
>   halway
>   >   has
>   >   >   suspended
>   >   >   > ceiling through which I plan to put all the wires.
>   >   >   > So, it's not possible to mount them in the ceiling.
>   >   >   > These speakers will be mono, because I will use them
for
>   >   >   anouncements only,
>   >   >   > so this is all a bit too expensive for me.
>   >   >   > If I decide to go for a home audio, I'll probably use
KAT5.
>   >   >   > Is your speaker cable shielded, and does it cross any
power
>   >   lines?
>   >   >   > Does it pick any noise?
>   >   >   > Nik
>   >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   >   >   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
>   >   >   >   Sent: 13 July 2002 18:38
>   >   >   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>   >   >   >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   That's a pretty small speaker requirement then! How
about
>   >   putting
>   >   >   >   them in the ceiling - I've got 7 sets of ceiling
>   speakers in
>   >   >   various
>   >   >   >   rooms. They sound great and look very good (probably
less
>   >   obvious
>   >   >   >   than wall speakers). I went for a variety of models
>   >   including:
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Sonance GRM2 - Single stereo to mono summing speaker
>   (water
>   >   >   >   resistant) - for use in the bathroom £90 ish
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Systemline QED - Stereo pair for general areas £130
ish
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Sonance 621 - Good quality stereo pair for listening
>   rooms
>   >   £240
>   >   >   ish
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Also used 79 stand OFC cable
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   May be OTT for your requirements (whole lot cost over
>   £1000 -
>   >   >   cheap
>   >   >   >   compared to what you can easily spend). My system was
>   >   primarily a
>   >   >   >   whole-house audio system with feeds for Comfort, ACE
TTS
>   etc.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   Paul.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...>
wrote:
>   >   >   >   > The time has come...
>   >   >   >   > I am ready to put some more cable throughout the
flat.
>   I
>   >   >   >   downloaded homeseer
>   >   >   >   > yesterday, for a trial and saw that I should really
>   have
>   >   some
>   >   >   >   speakers for
>   >   >   >   > announcements.
>   >   >   >   > Inital plan is to put small wall speaker in each
room
>   (5+2,
>   >   >   >   kitchen, lounge,
>   >   >   >   > hallway, 2 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms).
>   >   >   >   > I plan to put them above the doors in each room.
>   Bathroom
>   >   ones
>   >   >   >   must be water
>   >   >   >   > resistant. Internal walls are very thin, 5 cm
including
>   >   >   plaster on
>   >   >   >   both
>   >   >   >   > sides. Plaster is about 12mm, so I have just 38mm
from
>   >   surface
>   >   >   to
>   >   >   >   the back
>   >   >   >   > of the plaster on the other side of the wall.
>   >   >   >   > Did anyone see such a thin speakers, preferrably in
>   white.
>   >   >   >   > Are there any standards in speaker sizes, so if
speaker
>   >   dies at
>   >   >   >   some point
>   >   >   >   > later I'll have no problems replacing it? I don't
want
>   some
>   >   >   funny
>   >   >   >   shapes, so
>   >   >   >   > I have problems finding spare later.
>   >   >   >   > And, most important question: What kind of cable to
>   put for
>   >   >   that
>   >   >   >   speaker?
>   >   >   >   > I suppose hi-fi speaker cable should be fine, but
are
>   they
>   >   an
>   >   >   >   overkill?
>   >   >   >   > Also, because it's crossing power lines, wouldn't
it be
>   >   better
>   >   >   if
>   >   >   >   it's
>   >   >   >   > shielded? Also, they are thick, generally speaking,
>   should
>   >   I
>   >   >   go for
>   >   >   >   > something thinner?
>   >   >   >   > Please come with your experiences, because once I
put
>   it
>   >   in, it
>   >   >   >   will be
>   >   >   >   > impossible to replace it later.
>   >   >   >   > Cheers,
>   >   >   >   > Nik
>   >   >   >
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