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Jason,
But you're not trusting it to a single HD.... you're making a BACKUP
on a
different one... that's the point!
I'm not disagreeing that DVD-writers have other benefits, but if all
you're
looking for is a backup, then they aren't the cheapest solution.
The point about a backup is that it's an EXTRA copy... so you don't
have a
single point of failure anywhere.
M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Lee
[mailto:jasonjlee@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Sun 07/07/2002 00:32
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: Re:
[ukha_d] Re: OT - DVD writers
To me, anything that is important enough to not lose, I
wouldn't trust the
backup to a single hd.
They fail.
As
they
did when *TWO* 75Gig Ibms died without warning, taking 2 weeks of
coding
with it. (I was lucky I had been backing up to the dvd-ram before
then).
As
your in IT I think you will know the drives I am referring too. I
had
them
just after launch when the great reviews were around, before the
faulty
units started to appear. If I remember correctly it was something to
do
with when they bought the Hungary factory online. I don't make the
same
mistake twice, so I won't trust HD for backups again.
Now HD
space cheaper than dvd-r?
89p for 4.3g DVD-RW
Say 10 disks..
£8.90.
43gig..
Now you have to factor in the cost of the dvd-r etc,etc, but as
I
said
before dvd writers have side benefits.
(But then in your example
you factor in the pc which you costed at £200.)
And you have to
manage
the media, but thats not too bad.
What I'm after is an affordable
DVD
autoloader. If Yamaha Japan would just
reply to my
emails..
Anyway,
I think we can agree to disagree. To each his own.
J
-----
Original Message -----
From: "Mark Harrison"
<Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>
To:
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 8:02
PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: OT - DVD writers
>
Jason,
>
> As I said - "if your requirement is simply
_backup_".
>
> I _am_ prepared to put _backups_ on a non-RAID
HDD... because _backup_
means "spare copy".
>
> I was
over-simplifying about the archive usage - the HDD is question
is,
itself,
backed up, to an Application Service Provider with a full HSM
backup
offering that does a full delta-block backup... I'm guessing,
however, that
this would be out of Ray's price range if he's talking
about
buying a
DVD-writer :-)
>
> The point was that hard disk
space
is, now, rather cheaper than tape, or
blank optical media... so if the
solution really is a _backup_, a copy to
another PC is actually the
cheapest way to go. I know that a number of
people on this group use
_removable_ IDE drives for this purpose...
>
>
Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Lee [mailto:jasonjlee@xxxxxxx]
>
Sent: Sat 06/07/2002 11:49
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Cc:
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: OT - DVD
writers
>
>
>
> Um, I would have said the same
thing
before I experienced IBM hard drives
a
> while
ago.
>
>
As a cheap solution, yeah maybe. But Hard Disks fail..
>
> I
bet
you don't put any data you couldn't live without on that system at
>
work, unless its raided?
>
> Plus having a dvdwriter has side
benefits.
>
> The 'which disk is that on' I am working on..
Once
I've got the projects
> I've already started
finished!
>
>
oh and double sided disks are around for dvd-r.. not sure of the
quality
> though.
>
> J
>
>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "mark_harrison_uk1"
<Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx>
> To:
<ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 11:43
AM
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: OT - DVD writers
>
>
>
Ray,
>
> If you requirement is simply backup for that kind of
data
volume,
> there's a more cost-effective, and fast solution than
either
you
> propose.
>
> A second PC (second-hand, a P2 would
be
fine), with a, say, 60Gb HDD
> in it, a couple of network cards and a
crossover cable - and lo, your
> ideal backup solution for about
£200.
>
> It's what I do at home for backup... it's also what
we
now do at work
> for long-term archiving of the digital images for
the
comet website!
> The cost equation of hardware was about the same,
but
once you took
> into account the indexing problem (which CD is that
photo on)... it
> became an obvious thing to do.
>
>
Regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> ---
In
ukha_d@y..., "Ray Barnett" <lists@t...> wrote:
> >
Hi,
>
>
> > Just wanted a quick bit of advice since I gather some
people
here
> use them a
> > fair bit...
> >
> >
I
urgently need to implement a backup system capable of looking
> after
my
> > rapidly growing 20GBs of digital photos.
>
>
>
> Current favourites are a DVD writer or an Onstream 60GB tape
thingy.
> > However, I've just confused myself over the
compatibilities of the
> various
> > DVD writers. Just how
compatible is a DVD-R writer, and is it a
> dead duck
> >
now
that DVD+R is getting more popular?
> >
> >
Thanks,
>
>
> > Ray Barnett.
>
>
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