RE: [OT] NOW music royalties RE: [OT] LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

["BUTLER, Tony, FM" <tony.butler@xxxxxxx>]

ISTR it's a mixture of exactly calculated loyalties & average airplays.  Also, for international play, they rely on similar agencies abroad to cough up, thought this is based on trust rather than the international agencies providing them with exact data.

AAMOI, they used to encourage staff to listen to piped music on airplanes & whilst on holiday to be vigilant for unlicensed airplay.  Staff would then be rewarded for finding these dodgy venues.  One of the airlines got done for unlicensed music!

 

Tony

 -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Crowther [mailto:scrowther@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 30 January 2002 09:41
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: [OT] NOW music royalties RE: [ukha_d] [OT] LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

Keith - your assumpption re: Mr McCartney is correct.

 

the PRS money goes to the PRS who distribute to their members, and

its based on their income from other sources.

 

You're right all radio (and TV) broadcasts are tracked so they know who

was played and when and for how long.

 

The main income on royalties comes from the radio and TV play, with more

from live gigs, and a much smaller 5age from the likes of you DJing.

 

Scott Crowther
Intamac Systems Ltd

t: +44 (0)1604 679262
e. scrowther@xxxxxxx
w. www.intamac.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 29 January 2002 19:29
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

The whole royalty issue is a big con IMHO.

 

I have no problem with the Artist getting his/her fair cut of the money, but when that money goes to an organisation like tha RIAA or the Performing Rights Society, how do they know WHO to give the money to?

 

When I was DJ'ing the venue had to have a PRS licence as do shops, restaurants etc. Radio Stations also have to pay PRS based on the size of target audience. Now my gripe ......

 

Radio Stations have to keep logs of what is played and how much of the song is played. The artist then receives a royalty payment based on the going rate for that stations audience. FAIR ENOUGH.

 

As a Pub/Club DJ I NEVER had to fill out any kind of playlist return for ANY venue. The venue payed a fee based on the number of nights it was open and the capacity of the venue. WHERE DID THE MONEY GO ??

 

How do they know who's songs I played and how often. My guess is that as a songwriter Paul McCartney compositions account for x% of Radio playlists (whatever x may be) and therefore he will receive x% of any PRS licences. I have nothing against Paul McCartney and he has written some great songs, but apart from some Beatles tracks from the 60's which I have played at parties, I dont think I have ever played anything by him.

 

By comparison, the artists that I have played many times, because of the genre they belong to, often dont get featured on the radio and therefore would not appear in the calculations above. The only income they would recieve would be from my purchase of the record.

 

I dont believe the money reaches the correct pocket, which as far as I am concerned, is stealing money from the true owner of the work in the same way as a "Special Limited Edition Gold CD" from a Car Boot Sale.

 

At the same time, all the measures they take to stop piracy only serve to make life more difficult for genuine consumers. When MacroVision was introduced some older TV's would not show a proper picture because the corrupted sync upset the TV causing tearing across the top of the picture.

 

....end of Gripe

 

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Crowther [mailto:scrowther@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 29 January 2002 18:01
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

this is an interesting one.

 

did you know that the RIAA (US music industry body) are being

questioned by Senate about the legalities of copy protecting audio CDs?

 

apparantely all the MP3 and CD duplication eqpt we buy has a percentage

of its sale cost taken by the RIAA to distribute to its members as

compensation for loss of CD sales (ie to pay the artists with)

 

The Senate see CD copy protection as a breach of this royalty agreement, and are

considering making it illegal to build in copy protection to CD's.

 

This will rumble on for ever, by which time a new format/compression

software'll make it all redundant anyway...

 

Scott Crowther
Intamac Systems Ltd

t: +44 (0)1604 679262
e. scrowther@xxxxxxx
w. www.intamac.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennwatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 29 January 2002 17:55
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: [ukha_d] [OT] LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

LIMITED-PLAY DVDS TAKE A STEP CLOSER

 

SpectraDisc, a US optical electronics manufacturer,

has been issued a US Patent for its limited-play

CD/DVD technology. Aimed directly at the rental

industry, SpectraDisc's new technology can create

DVDs with a special coating that causes them to

become unplayable after a set period of time. Such

is the functionality of its new coating,

SpectraDisc say their DVDs can be made to expire

anywhere within minutes or weeks of the DVD's

packaging being opened.

 

Oh bugger, another bloody format protection racket!

 

K.

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