Re: Floorboards

["Graham Butler" <graham@xxxxxxx>]

Thanks for that - it's almost precisely how I've started going about it :)
Nice to have confirmation though.  And whoever you were originally replying
to in the guide bit about floorboards going under walls...I wouldn't have
believed it if I hadn't discovered the same thing myself just now.  The
mind
boggles :)  Still, it's quite a small flat so a doorway is never far away.

G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Chasmer" <robert.chasmer@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Floorboards


> Graham wrote:
> > From: Graham Butler [mailto:graham@xxxxxxx]
> > Anyone got any tips on how to get these up in one piece?
>
> > They tend to be nailed to at least 3 or more joists, ie one in
the
> > middle as well as the ends, and it's proving rather a pain
getting
> > them up. There was a half-sized board not nailed, for access to
> > some existing cabling, which has provided me with a starting
point,
> > but it's still a real pain.
>
> The main thing you need to do, is get the nails out before you start
> trying to lift the boards.  I tend to cut the top of the nails away
> with an Angle grinder.  Though other people seem to have suggested
> other possiblly better ways of doing this.
>
> Next up is to cut the boards into managable sections, possibly cutting
away
> any at the tongue-n-groove if your boards have this.  I use a circular
saw
> set to the correct depth so as to avoid any other cable/pipe I'm not
awair
> of.
>
> I posted a rough guide last year which I've included.  I would have
> posted a link to the article but I've forgotton where the HA archive
> is at the mo.
>
>
> Rob
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> [warning long message]
>
> Well most of the structured cabling I've laid has revolved around a
> mixture of lifting floor boards in key locations, and in one case,
> cutting serious channels in the walls in the lounge to install conduit
> to run cable from the ceiling/floor upstairs, to sockets in the wall.
> I was installing halogen lighting at the time, so I had little choice
> but to get the floor up upstairs.
>
> To start with you'll probably not know which way the beams go.  I
> wanted to cut the floor neatly so that I could be screwed back down
> with enough of the floor resting completly on the beams.  This is
> quite a bit of work at first but pays of, and saves you needing to
> replace the boards.
>
> x J x        J        x J x
>    _____________________
>    :        :   :        :
>    :        :   :        :
>    :        :   :        :
>    : cut-out floor board :
>    :        :   :        :
>    :        :   :        :
>   _:________:___:________:_
>
> x J x        J        x J x
>
> * To investigate I started off by destroying a small bit of flooring
> with the help of a drill and jigsaw.  This is NOT the way to do
> things as you'll be worring about mains and piping under the floor.
> However at the end of this I knew roughly the dimentions of the
> beams etc.
>
> * Next I used a small drill and to locate where the joists start
> and end (X's on the ascii art above).
> * Mark up the floor so that you cut in the middle of the joists
> as shown by the diagram
> * Then using a ciruclar saw, adjusted to just the right depth for
> the flooring set about cutting the wood.
> * Next problem is the nails used to hold the floor down.  With the
> help of a grinder cut the heads of the nails.  The floor will come
> up with a bit of leverage fairly easily.
>
> I had to repeat this in a long line as the beams were running across
> the direction I wanted to run some of the cables.  I had to lift a
> section of flooring up in a neat line so that I could drill holes
> in the beams, to run the cables.  For others I could just poke them
> with bendy conduit along the beams from room to room.
>
> I did worry about cutting holes but there very small in comparison
> to the size of the beams.  Also holes were already evident from the
> install of the heating and electrics.
>
> To replace the floor, screw the boards down, with lots of screws.
> They won't squeek or creak anymore (mine did before any of the work)
> You'll also be able to get the floor back up if you need to.  I also
> cut the carpet gripper rods so that they don't need to be touched
> again.
>
>
> > Also, it looks like they probably run under the walls too.
> > Anyone got any solutions or solved similar problems?
>
> I decided to leave the floor under the wall alone.  I cut the floor
> in a doorway instead, using the approach above, this allowed me to
> drill some more holes.  I found that three beams are all together
> inbetween one of my walls.
>
> End result, retro fitting cables in my floor isn't to-hard any more.
> It was a LOT of work to begin with though.  I think it paid of.
> I just clear some of the room, lift some carpet, unscrew the floor
> and lift the boards.
>
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