Fw: Fibre Was: RE: PBXs

["Gareth Cook" <gcook@xxxxxxx>]

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place to hang about in chaps ?

For HA stuff that is (!)

Happy New Year all...

G.

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Stuart Grimshaw <stuart@xxxxxxx>
Today 16:25

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Subject: .	Fibre Was: RE: [ukha_d] PBXs .
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On the ukha IRC channel we've been doing a little research into the costs of
all this:

Cable (4/8) core fibre ranges between £1.50 & £2.20 /metre.. 16 port patch
panels (st) (1U) £59.99 and a termination kit is about £400....

Those prices taken from misco and not a "trade" supplier/etc.. so its
definately within reach! The only "big" cost is interfaces for switches/etc..

RE: it not being used in offices....  Mathew's company have recently ran more
fibre, so 99% of users are a switch away from fibre!

So, my summary is this:

Yes, it would be very nice to install fibre around the home for future use,
the cost of it is (IMO) a lot more than copper, and that might swing it if I
were retro-installing, BUT I would seriously consider using it if I were
installing in a new build, because the price of the fibre itself is miniscule
compared to the costs of the rest of the build.

So, I suppose as with most things HA, while I agree fibre is probably the
cat5 of the future, it's down to your budget if you can afford it at todays
prices.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 31 December 2001 00:20
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] PBXs
>
>
> You beat me to it P G .. I was going to mention HDTV to James. Can I
> also point out that a gigabit really isn't that much, especially if you
> consider it's use in 3 or 4 years time [which as I already mentioned, I
> am talking about future proofing here]. It's only a few years since
> 10mbps was fine ... now I struggle to get by on 100mbps.
>
> And yes, I was refering to cat5e .. I haven't used anything else for a
> few years, so I just slip into the bad habit of calling it cat5.
>
> Everyone keeps pointing out how much easier and cheaper it is to run
> cables while building or renovating a house, so surely fibre has to be
> at least a consideration if you plan to live there for a few years? I
> wouldn't plan a house without it yet, and I already conceeded that I
> would still run cat5 [ok, cat5e then] for some current apps.
>
>
> Calum
>
> P G wrote:
> >I believe full-bandwidth, uncompressed HD video runs at about
>
> 1.5 gigabits
>
> >per second! I still remember building a ZX80 with a huge 1/2 Kb
>
> memory (I
>
> >think - but I was ony 10 at the time!).
> >
> >You can never have enough bandwidth!
> >
> >>From: "James Hoye" <james.hoye@xxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > >>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: Re: [ukha_d] PBXs
> >>Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:43:39 -0000
> >>
> >>This email was delivered to you by The Free Internet.
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> >>
> >>>Shouldn't we forward thinking chappies [ and chappettes :-) ] be saying
> >>>"screw cat5, I use fibre" to ensure a little bit more life in our
> >>>systems than cat5 can offer?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Calum [ not looking at 'im who's just laid over 7km's of cat5 >:) ]
> >>
> >>With CAT5e you can go to gigabit - raw broadcast video doesn't get near
> >>that.
> >>
> >>James H

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