Re: In celing mics.

["psghome2002" <psghome@xxxxxxx>]

I looked long and hard at the Kustom 6640 - looks pretty good. But
then my eye got drawn by the Xantech switcher which seems more
flexible (without the paging features though). I'm still not
decided - if only I can figure a way of getting a supplier in the US
to ship Xantech kit here (even with 4% audio goods import duty and
VAT it's CONSIDERABLY cheaper than buying it from here :( )

Still not sure about voice recognition using HAL/HomeVoice etc.
Couldn't get HomeVoice to work (W2K or XP not supported) and HAL is
so American (some features don't work outside US). This kind of
setup is still a way off for the reliable setup that I want (with
voice recognition in most rooms/zones)

--- In ukha_d@y..., "Eamon  O'Gorman" <eamonogorman@e...>
wrote:
> I've got a similar set up to the one the chap in the U.S is
talking about, I
> am using the Kustom 6640, which I hope to be able to use the page
input for
> whole house announcements. As to mounting the mics in the ceiling,
I dont
> see as there is any other real choice,,,,, wall mounting is out of
the
> question (wifey would rather rip out my spine than let me chase
the walls).
>
>     I got some tips from Mike at letsautomate, so I am going to
try these
> and see how I get on. If there are any sound engineers out there,
can they
> please explain to me what the hell  "Soft Knee " or
"Hard Knee"
means on a
> liimiter/gate for a start, and then explain what the other 14
knobs annd
> buttons do.....
>
> Regards,
>
> Eamon "Way over my head here" O'Gorman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "psghome2002" <psghome@h...>
> To: <ukha_d@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:43 AM
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: In celing mics.
>
>
> > I've not done it yet but am planning on doing the same as you
using
> > Shure intelligent mixer and crown mics. I did get some advice
>from
> > US based guy - I've copied it below. I'd be VERY interested in
your
> > findings, I'm a few weeks away from the whole-house retrofit of
> > lights,power,CAT5 etc and am still undecided whether to go the
full
> > monty with voice recognition.
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > Well whole room voice recognition still has a way to
> > go.  There is just too much background noise to make it
> > 100%.  Using the local phones work much better since it
> > reduces the outside noise such as radios, others
> > talking, etc.
> >
> > I am single so that is not as much a problem for me.
> >
> > I have 4 Crown PZM-11 mikes mounted in the major rooms
> > feeding into a Shure 410 mixer/gate.  Does a pretty good
> > job but there are times where I have to turn down the
> > radio/TV to get understood.  Quieter rooms such as the
> > bedrooms or bathrooms work much better.
> >
> > If I don't want to turn down the volume due to guests, I
> > just pick up a phone, dial # and talk to HAL.
> >
> > One caution, do not put the mikes in the ceiling.  Even
> > Crown states this is not the best place even though it
> > would seem to be.
> >
> > For the house audio, I have a Kustom unit.  Would prefer
> > to have the 6640 but it wasn't out at the time I bought
> > mine.  Would like to upgrade sometime when I find
> > someone that has a need for just a 4X6 instead of a 6X6
> > unit.  The page function would be great to feed HAL into
> > so the responses go to all areas.
> >
> > Has doorbell inputs that could be connected to sensors
> > or X10 devices for notification or alarms.
> >
> > Hope this gives you a little help.  Check out the Feb
> > issue of Home Automation magazine for a more complete
> > list of equipment that I have here.  My home is the
> > Featured home of the month.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don    K9SOA/4  EM77EX
> >
> > www.k9soa.net
> >
> > Home of "JEANNIE" The House That
> > Listens
> >
> > My voice controlled, automated
> > home that was featured on HGTV's
> > Dream Builder show on home
> > automation
> >
> > Featured Home of the Month
> > Feb 2002 issue
> > Home Automation magazine
> > > Hi Don,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm just about to start a HA project covering pretty much
> > everything
> > > including Lighting, Security, Heating, Audio etc. I've got a
few
> > > questions I hope you don't mind answering?...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm looking at putting in a whole-house open-air microphone
> > system - I
> > > presume you use something like this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've tried HAL2000 with some success just using a standard
> > microphone.
> > > How accurate (in terms of recognition accuracy) have you
managed
> > to get
> > > your system? . and how difficult was it to set up?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What equipment do you use?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Gale.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@y..., "Eamon  O'Gorman"
<eamonogorman@e...> wrote:
> > >    I have just started playing with some mics/mixers for
voice
> > control via in ceiling mics. I have a feeling its going to be a
bit
> > of a struggle to get them working reliably, but thats the fun of
> > it....
> > >
> > >   Anyone else tried this, or had any success/failures. I am
using
> > HAL2000 (which has quite good recognition over phone and using
basic
> > pc microphone), but these limiters and gates are looking pretty
> > complex. I've got the wiring right for my first mic, and get some
> > recognition (although not near as good as with my pc mic). If
anyone
> > has any tips I'd appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eamon
> >
> >
> >
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