Re: Re: In celing mics.

["Eamon O'Gorman" <eamonogorman@xxxxxxx>]

I've got a similar set up to the one the chap in the U.S is talking about,
I
am using the Kustom 6640, which I hope to be able to use the page input for
whole house announcements. As to mounting the mics in the ceiling, I dont
see as there is any other real choice,,,,, wall mounting is out of the
question (wifey would rather rip out my spine than let me chase the walls).

I got some tips from Mike at letsautomate, so I am going to try these
and see how I get on. If there are any sound engineers out there, can they
please explain to me what the hell  "Soft Knee " or "Hard
Knee" means on a
liimiter/gate for a start, and then explain what the other 14 knobs annd
buttons do.....

Regards,

Eamon "Way over my head here" O'Gorman


----- Original Message -----
From: "psghome2002" <psghome@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: In celing mics.


> I've not done it yet but am planning on doing the same as you using
> Shure intelligent mixer and crown mics. I did get some advice from a
> US based guy - I've copied it below. I'd be VERY interested in your
> findings, I'm a few weeks away from the whole-house retrofit of
> lights,power,CAT5 etc and am still undecided whether to go the full
> monty with voice recognition.
>
> Paul.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Well whole room voice recognition still has a way to
> go.  There is just too much background noise to make it
> 100%.  Using the local phones work much better since it
> reduces the outside noise such as radios, others
> talking, etc.
>
> I am single so that is not as much a problem for me.
>
> I have 4 Crown PZM-11 mikes mounted in the major rooms
> feeding into a Shure 410 mixer/gate.  Does a pretty good
> job but there are times where I have to turn down the
> radio/TV to get understood.  Quieter rooms such as the
> bedrooms or bathrooms work much better.
>
> If I don't want to turn down the volume due to guests, I
> just pick up a phone, dial # and talk to HAL.
>
> One caution, do not put the mikes in the ceiling.  Even
> Crown states this is not the best place even though it
> would seem to be.
>
> For the house audio, I have a Kustom unit.  Would prefer
> to have the 6640 but it wasn't out at the time I bought
> mine.  Would like to upgrade sometime when I find
> someone that has a need for just a 4X6 instead of a 6X6
> unit.  The page function would be great to feed HAL into
> so the responses go to all areas.
>
> Has doorbell inputs that could be connected to sensors
> or X10 devices for notification or alarms.
>
> Hope this gives you a little help.  Check out the Feb
> issue of Home Automation magazine for a more complete
> list of equipment that I have here.  My home is the
> Featured home of the month.
>
>
>
> --
> Don    K9SOA/4  EM77EX
>
> www.k9soa.net
>
> Home of "JEANNIE" The House That
> Listens
>
> My voice controlled, automated
> home that was featured on HGTV's
> Dream Builder show on home
> automation
>
> Featured Home of the Month
> Feb 2002 issue
> Home Automation magazine
> > Hi Don,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm just about to start a HA project covering pretty much
> everything
> > including Lighting, Security, Heating, Audio etc. I've got a few
> > questions I hope you don't mind answering?...
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm looking at putting in a whole-house open-air microphone
> system - I
> > presume you use something like this?
> >
> >
> >
> > I've tried HAL2000 with some success just using a standard
> microphone.
> > How accurate (in terms of recognition accuracy) have you managed
> to get
> > your system? . and how difficult was it to set up?
> >
> >
> >
> > What equipment do you use?
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Gale.
> >
>
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@y..., "Eamon  O'Gorman"
<eamonogorman@e...> wrote:
> >    I have just started playing with some mics/mixers for voice
> control via in ceiling mics. I have a feeling its going to be a bit
> of a struggle to get them working reliably, but thats the fun of
> it....
> >
> >   Anyone else tried this, or had any success/failures. I am using
> HAL2000 (which has quite good recognition over phone and using basic
> pc microphone), but these limiters and gates are looking pretty
> complex. I've got the wiring right for my first mic, and get some
> recognition (although not near as good as with my pc mic). If anyone
> has any tips I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eamon
>
>
>
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