Re: Ceiling Lights & Local Control

["Alancc" <alan.cc@xxxxxxx>]

Ah well now there are sparks and there are sparks, it comes down to pride
in
your work at the end of the day.

I,m proud to show off my cupboard full of modules, but seriously access is
important I have 57 lamps in the Lounge, 55 in the Dining Room and 21 in
the
Hall, when one goes so does the module fuse.

Maybe this is why our lecky bill was £600 this quarter, SWMBO hit the roof.

I'm looking at an energy meter now to check the boards meter is correct and
to see where its all going, the one I am considering is a din mounted unit
with separate current transformer it also has an output which can be
monitored.

Another job on the list to do.

Alancc (A sparky with pride)


----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Watt <kennwatt@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Ceiling Lights & Local Control


> Who said I was rough? ;-)
>
> To be honest the modules were left out in the loft uncovered, but then
> so was half the mains wiring for the house where it was joined, I fail
> to see any difference. Any modules I have now are either in a housing
or
> in the main box in the loft so no problems now.
>
> The one I had in the cavity wall was sitting on a dwang and was very
> content there for at least 18 months with a blanking plate to cover
the
> hole, the module rested on the dwang and the "customised"
fast-fix box
> that allowed the blanking plate to be fixed.
>
> To be honest I would see more of a heat problem occurring in the
> enclosed space of one of the housings as there is less airflow to the
> main body of the module. The primary reason for fitting some of the
> single DIN enclosures in the new house was one of safety where wiring
> could be reached under normal conditions as, personally; I don't like
> getting a mains jolt ;-) My problem in the old house was the same as
> Doogie's is now, without a major "ripping the house apart"
exercise it
> was either this way or no way, I opted for the former.
>
> As for water ingress if it's gonna happen then it's gonna happen! The
> single DIN enclosures *do* offer some protection from this, certainly
> more than the module sitting without one, but not too much, especially
> in an enclosed environment which you would have to assess the risk
> factor for yourself. But this must also be taken into account when
> fitting a module in an enclosure as well, it is pretty much a
> non-starter to install *any* mains devices under a shower or a bath
for
> example! Also as you and I have both pointed out, some form of access
is
> needed just in case something does go wrong.
>
> I say again...have you seen what *trained* sparks do!? We work for
many
> a famous builder and let me just say I have never nor will ever ask
any
> of those guys to work in my house. I *thought* I was rough!
>
> Basically IMHO, apply a liberal dose of common sense and you should be
> okay regardless of how it looks, let's face it you don't want to see
an
> X10 module anyway and the point of this exercise is to hide the
things!
>
> K.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alancc [mailto:alan.cc@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 18 February 2002 17:39
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Ceiling Lights & Local Control
> >
> > They should really go in an enclosure, its like using plastic
> connectors
> > rather than a proper joint box, the  inner sheath of the cables
should
> not
> > be exposed outside of an enclosure.
> > And don't just chuck it up there, take pride in your work boy,
screw
> the
> > enclosure to a timber and keep it above the insulation or it will
> > overheat,
> > try and put it near the trap or so you can get at it when the
fuse
> blows,
> > you don't want to be grovelling around up there in your PJs when
the
> bulb
> > goes on the way to bed.
> >
> > Alancc
>
>
>
>
>
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