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RE: single device X10 RF remote
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- Subject: RE: single device X10 RF remote
- From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:01:51 -0000
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Ah, it's easier to discuss, when you're not directly involved.
I understand that there are those additional costs, but I just went to
a
couple of similar sites to compare the shipping costs, and they were
all
cheaper. Generally, about =A35 flat fee.
I'm not talking here about e-buyer, Dabs or similar, which are huge and
hav=
e
everything computerised. With them p&p is even more cheaper. Just
bough=
t
wireless keyboard and mouse from DABS, p&p and handling is =A31.5.
E-bu=
yer was
also expensive for small items before, but they reviewed their policy
recently and now they are cheaper.
I'm trying here to compare it with laser (www.laser.com) or custard
computers (http://www.custar=
dcomputers.com/), which seems to me,
approximately the same size, if not smaller businesses.
My point is here that they can charge =A320/delivery and take =A315 off
the=
price, and although it's all legal and clear, on homepage you'll see
produc=
t
price without delivery in bold and big font. However for delivery
charges,<=
BR>
you need to click on some small link or two, and on some sites you need
to<=
BR>
go all the way to the checkout to find out.
And we all know that those big ads on homepage attract buyers and the
goal<=
BR>
is to present figures presented there as low as possible. Hence, they
are
presented ex VAT and without delivery. But I wouldn't be supprised if
there=
are companies around that claim that shipping is free (big font), but
you
pay for handling (in small font) or similar.
Anyway, if I compare the total prices of LA and the others they are all
about the same, just on first sight they look cheaper, which means that
their strategy works :-))).
I'll probably buy from them anyway, because of good reputation :-).
Cheers,
Nik
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kwatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 December 2002 17:24
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] single device X10 RF remote
> BTW, I didn't know that you're working there, I knew for
Phil.<=
BR>
I don't work for LA or Laser but I sympathise with their problem of
=
how
to charge for P&P, quite simply people don't want to pay for it
=
nor do
they seem to think that they should. Yet if you build it into the
co=
st
then you get slagged for being too expensive on the products,
simply=
put, as a retailer, you can't win.
> People, this was not intended to slag LA, we all know how they
=
were
always
> supportive of our little community. It was merely my opinion
th=
at
their
> P&P
> rates are a bit over the standards of the industry at the
momen=
t. If
they
> cannot be cheaper, then...let it be.
> Ken, I appologize, if you are interested in my opinion as a
cus=
tomer,
you
> can contact me off the list.
No need really, it's not an argument I merely had to point out
that<=
BR>
these things are set at a rate which the retailer sets and is
comfortable with, whether you are prepared to pay for the service
or=
not
is down to you personally. What I was trying to say that calling it
=
a
"ripoff" was misleading as it's not really, the rates are
=
clearly stated
up front and, as I said, it's up to you as a consumer to accept
that=
or
not.
ATEOTD, I bet that LA or Laser would probably make less on the
singl=
e
item than the sale was worth, hence the higher charges on postage,
w=
e
have to do similar with spares some of which cost >=A32, but
bear=
in mind
that someone has to deal with that item all the way though the
syste=
m
(ordering, receiving, unpacking, repacking, labelling, packing,
post=
ing
etc., not just a simple "pop it in an envelope" most
times=
) and you have
to account for the staff's time and the cost to do that that's all
I=
was
saying and on low-value stuff it's hard to build it into the price,
=
if
at all possible. After all, we all don't go to work for nothing,
why=
should we expect Laser or LA to do so?
K.
http://www.automatedhome.=
co.uk
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