Re: Hv multizone ir system Costing

["graham_howe" <graham@xxxxxxx>]

--- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
> Somehow, I missed that request as well.
> Or it was not clear enough what that was all about :-).
> It's a shame, because Frank is restricting it's market to 10-15% of
the
> group, which have homevision (my estimate).
> In fact, it seems already that there are more people without 
homevision
> interested in it.
> Maybe siteplayer module can be an answer and will transform signals
>from
> format to another.
> Nik

The following mini rant is all IMHO and not directed at any 
individuals at all:-

I dare say that Frank (if he is still awake) is feeling very slightly 
deflated right now. He did in numerous threads talk about the design 
of his IR system. In all of those threads he solicited ideas and 
opinions, but response was very poor. Andy and I found exactly the 
same with HomeAutomator and I have seen lots of other projects 
started here that go the same way.

The reality is that this stuff takes a lot of time and effort and is 
a pretty selfless (and thankless) gesture by those who actually do 
the work. Rather than worrying about the fact that the final product 
is only useful to 10% or 15% of the group, how about the fact that 
99% (my estimation) of the group don't contribute any 
comments/opinions/requests/assistance until the product is delivered 
and doesn't meet their expectations.

We have tried everything as developers, groups have been set up for 
discussion, pictures and details have been posted every step of the 
way, but still the feedback is negligible.

I'm sure that Frank, just like Andy and I, eventually got fed up with 
the lack of response here and so designed and built what he needed. 
It will soon be available for a very reasonable price and if you can 
use it then I'm sure you will find it an absolute bargain! If it 
doesn't meet your needs, then you know why that is.

I have said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again (usually at a 
meet after a few beers) we have a tremendous amount of talent on this 
group and we could produce some really useful hardware and software. 
But we will get nowhere fast if we all sit back and wait for the next 
gifted samaritan to do all the work and deliver it at cost.

Most of what we want to achieve in Home Automation just doesn't exist 
today. How would you rather it came in to existence, as an overpriced 
underspecified off the shelf solution that you had zero input in 
developing, or as something that really meets your requirements at a 
very reasonable price. Well guess what, we can't read minds, if you 
want something then tell people, get involved, contribute and you 
might be pleasantly surprised.

OK, rant over, thanks to Frank and all the other tinkerers here, and 
a boot up the arse for the silent majority.

Graham

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