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RE: Re: OT: Terrorism


  • To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: Re: OT: Terrorism
  • From: "Steve Cooper" <steve.cooper@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:17:56 +0100
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It doesn't stop a sleeper from some terrorist group getting a job as an
airline pilot though.  Everyone is saying these terrorist must have been
trained pilots because an American pilot wouldn't do such a thing.  Another
time those terrorist could well be the official pilots locked safely in
their cabin.

On the computer controlled planes front, as Mark pointed out obvious
hacking risks.  You certainly wouldn't want a Microsoft operating system
though, "Sorry your plane has caused an exception.  Would anyone of
the
passengers like to have a chance to debugging it or shall I just shut it
down."

Steve



"Mick
Furlong"             To:     <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
<dorsai@dirco        cc:
n.co.uk>             Subject:     RE: [ukha_d] Re: OT: Terrorism

12/09/01
17:25
Please
respond to
ukha_d






I still think totally secure flight decks is a 'reasonable' solution and
doesn't suffer from hacking or any other kind of outside interference.
Nothing else needs to change just stop anyone but the flight crew from
getting into the cockpit while the plane is in flight. As a comparison have
you ever seen a tube or train where the passengers could just stroll into
the drivers cab?

Mick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hetherington [mailto:mark.egroups@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 12 September 2001 17:15
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: OT: Terrorism
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@y..., "Steve Cooper" <steve.cooper@u...>
wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking a similar thing last night.
> >
> > Each plane has a predefined destination, this could be
> preprogrammed by
> > ground control.  If a plane goes off course by more than a set
> tolerance,
> > control of the plane is removed from the pilot either to an on
> board system
> > or ground control.  You could override it via codes from ground
> control if
> > required.
>
> Hmmm.... in such a scenario, the terrorist does not even have to know
> how to fly or to go to the trouble of taking over the plane or risk
> his life for his cause. He merely hacks in and tells the plane to go
> where he wants. He could even commandeer every plane in flight rather
> than needing a team to hijack each from a single computer and really
> coordinate a display of destruction. And of course no pesky flight
> crew trying to save the day since the plane is off course and the
> pilot can no longer control it. /me shudders at the thought
>
> Mark.
>
>
>
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