RE: Sparkies

["Julian Samphire" <tricky_item@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Mick,

This price is _just_ for cabling. He will be wiring the house up as if it
were a normal house and leaving me to wire up cats, x10's etc when I move
in (do with the certification and him not pricing for sitting there
putting cats into a patch panel). All the cables will be marked up and
left either hanging out of boxes or bundled up in existing sockets.
Minimal chasing is needed for cables as most of it is dry wall and
anything that is running down the outside walls will be in casing and
boarded over.

Current stage of build is roof on, no internal walls or floorboards so
its the best stage for electrical fixing.

Regards,

Jules

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mick Furlong" <dorsai@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:06:02 +0100
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies

> hold on guys you need to know what is being quoted for here, for
> example
> does this include cat5 termination to faceplates and the faceplates?
> Ditto
> for ct100 speaker cable etc. What termination is provided at the node
> zero
> end?
>
> I assume the work is being done at the construction stage? ...also the
> construction method makes a difference to the amount of work involved.
>
> Is certification of the cat 5 cabling included?
>
> It does sound expensive but you also need to take into account the
> number of
> points installed not just the total length of the cable, even if the
> installer is just a bog standard sparkie they don't come cheap. the
> average
> length of the runs is 14.5 M which is pretty short in office building
> terms
> so labour costs will be a higher proportion of the total when compared
> to
> more traditional data cabling installations. In most modern office
> buildings
> the ducting/raised floors/risers would also be in place making the job
> easier.
>
> If he is including supply termination and fixing of 162 single outlet
> RJ45s
> then it might be worth asking for a price for just cable installation.
>
> more info needed to take a proper view :) and despite the above he may
> still
> be ripping you off!
>
> Cheers
> Mick
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Doxey [mailto:ukha@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 03 September 2001 17:23
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies
> >
> >
> > Bloody Hell !!!!
> >
> > I think I ought to buy a Winnebago and start touring the country
> doing
> > installs.
> >
> > Prices from Rapid Electronics 01206 751166
> >
> > > 2400m cat5 = £424
> > CAT5e	305m box	19-8156	£35 per box	10+ £32.80
> > 2400m = 8 boxes = £280
> >
> >
> > > 540m ct100 = £243
> > CT100 02-0250  £19.30 per 100  5+ £17.00
> > 600m = £102
> >
> >
> > > 500m speaker cable = £360
> >
> > 79/0.2	01-0142	18.35 per reel 5+ 16.10 so
> >  500m = £80.50
> >
> > > 900m lighting cable = £200
> >
> > 1.5mm T&E	01-1944  £19.77 per 100m  5+ £ 18.58  10+ £17.72
> > 900m = 167.22 or 1000m for £177.20
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Julian Samphire [mailto:tricky_item@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 03 September 2001 17:07
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Sparkies
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've just got a price back from the housing company that is
> building my
> > > house. I've asked them to put in some cabling for my HA
stuff
> > before they
> > > finish the house. I have just been given a price of £8700
for this
> task
> > > as I was wondering if you guys could take a look through my
list
> and see
> > > if they are taking the mick (which I think they are by about
5k).
> > >
> > > This is the info I got from the electrician who quoted the
job
> > up for the
> > > housing company (shame he wont give me the prices too)
> > >
> > > 2400m cat5 - 162 runs
> > > 540m ct010 - 36 runs
> > > 900m 1.5 cable (lighting)
> > > 500m speaker cable (to roof spaces) 24runs
> > > Power is standard for the house so no change here...
> > >
> > > All this is going to be router to node0 which happens to be
in
> > the garage
> > > on the wall touching the house. The sparkie claims this will
take
> up to
> > > three weeks to complete. Also note that the price _doesnt_
> > include any HA
> > > stuff, this is just for cabling.
> > >
> > > I have put a few prices together going on maplin as a guide,
but
> the
> > > electrical company should be able to get cheaper prices
anyway:
> > >
> > > 2400m cat5 = £424
> > > 540m ct100 = £243
> > > 500m speaker cable = £360
> > > 900m lighting cable = £200
> > >
> > > Total = £1227
> > >
> > > I know some of you guys have done your own HA wiring, do you
think
> it
> > > would take one guy three weeks at 7 hours a day to do this?
and if
> so is
> > > 6000pounds way too much for 105 hours work, putting the guys
wage
> to
> > > something around 66 pounds an hour!
> > >
> > > Any info/moral suport apreciated,
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jules - just watching his HA dreams falling apart for his
new home
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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