Re: Overheating CPUs...

["Ian Lowe" <ian@xxxxxxx>]

Thats really a rather narrow view Mark, and reflects AMD as a company
before
a lot of the movements in the Semi industry. When IBM stopped fabbing x86
procesor cores, a lot of their guys moved to AMD for instance, and I
understand a couple of teams shifted from Nat Semi to AMD also..

In particular, AMD's Dresden fab (the one that makes the AXIA-Y series
Athlon procs) is considered the leading facility in the world, and produces
yields in the high 80% range, as opposed to Intel's Irish fab, which I
understand was managing somewhere around 50%-60%

There was extensive coverage of the fact that Intel had to abandon their
policy of underrating CPUs, simply because they were unable to produce the
higher rated ( >1GHz ) procs at an economic yield level.

Whether you want to just run win2K as a desktop, or play games (the
ultimate
system load) Thunderbird Athlon procs can the absolute pants off of Pentium
III or 4 dies at the same clock.

As for reliability in normal use? (ie, not a failure condition) I have
noticed no difference....

Not to mention that if it fails, a top line 1.4GH Athlon T-Bird is selling
now for £75 rather than £399 for the 2.0 Ghz P4 (with equivelant
performance
in 3D Mark 2001)

Ian.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hetherington" <mark.egroups@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:53 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Overheating CPUs...


> I see AMD are consistent in their ineptitude.
>
> After the whole AMD 486 debacle (where they ran all chips full speed
or
> overclocked compared with Intel undercloking chips where they could
not
> guarantee performance and reliability) I have always been wary of AMD.
"You
> get what you pay for" was never more true.
>
> Since I get some upgrades "free" I was talked into an Athlon
over Intel a
> year ago and have nothing good to say about the experience even on the
> "ideal" motherboard for the Athlon (I won't go into detail
since I would
be
> here all night to do so). Finally external evidence to show my qualms
> confirmed :)
>
> One thing about high powered chips, when they go, they literally go
with a
> bang. A guy at work, the PSU fan and CPU fan failed simultaneously
> ultimately resulting in chip meltdown. On replacement of seemingly
> appropriate parts on the workbench, at next power up, every IC on the
> motherboard blew together with the ICs on the IDE drives and Graphics
card.
> Quite a bang and there are still chip "chips" embedded in
the partition
wall
> of the old Net Admin room :)
>
> Mark.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 October 2001 00:36
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Overheating CPUs...
>
>
>
> There's a great AVI on www.tomshardware.com showing what happens when
the
> heatsink fails (i.e. falls off) on a 2Ghz P4, a 1GHz PIII and a 1.4Ghz
and
> 1.2Ghz "Palomino" Athalon...
>
> ...I hate to say it but the Intels were protected against the sudden
> temperature rise and either clocked down massively or hung but
survived
....
> the Athalons however failed *BIG TIME* and smoked reaching 360deg C or
more!
>
> It's the funniest 10Meg download you'll have seen in a while...
>
> Phil
>
>
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