RE: Overheating CPUs...

["Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

I've gotta say Mark that I can't totally agree with you ... I have been
using AMD processors since my first K6-2 350 now and I have been *VERY*
happy with them.

Sure, the floating point on the K6-2 wasn't as quick as the P2 but that
didn't bother me ... I rarely play games and it was still able to
recalculate Excel sheets quicker than I needed! My Athalon machine I can't
find fault with at all (the software that runs on it is a different matter
altogether).

I currently run three PCs and two laptops and all of the PCs are AMD based,
there's a K6-2 266, a K6-2 450 and a 1.2GHz Athalon. The laptops are a P2
266 and a PIII 500. I have never been interested in overclocking processors
and so if AMD or Intel sell me a 1GHz processor I'm not going to get upset
if it doesn't run at 1.2GHz (I'll raise hell if it doesn't run reliably at
1GHz though) and in a way I'd be more suspicious of a company that
"underrates" its processors as I'd be wondering why they are
underrating
them - are the processors so inconsistent that they need that much margin
of
safety to guarantee they'll still work?

Sure, the Intel jobs are better protected against "catastrophic"
thermal
failure (i.e. the heatsink breaking off in transit) but they do survive a
fan failing and the heatsink not being properly cooled in which case (my
understanding is) they do shut down reasonably gracefully.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hetherington [mailto:mark.egroups@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 October 2001 00:53
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Overheating CPUs...
>
>
> I see AMD are consistent in their ineptitude.
>
> After the whole AMD 486 debacle (where they ran all chips full speed
or
> overclocked compared with Intel undercloking chips where they could
not
> guarantee performance and reliability) I have always been wary of
> AMD. "You
> get what you pay for" was never more true.
>
> Since I get some upgrades "free" I was talked into an Athlon
over Intel a
> year ago and have nothing good to say about the experience even on the
> "ideal" motherboard for the Athlon (I won't go into detail
since
> I would be
> here all night to do so). Finally external evidence to show my qualms
> confirmed :)
>
> One thing about high powered chips, when they go, they literally go
with a
> bang. A guy at work, the PSU fan and CPU fan failed simultaneously
> ultimately resulting in chip meltdown. On replacement of seemingly
> appropriate parts on the workbench, at next power up, every IC on the
> motherboard blew together with the ICs on the IDE drives and
> Graphics card.
> Quite a bang and there are still chip "chips" embedded in
the
> partition wall
> of the old Net Admin room :)
>
> Mark.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 October 2001 00:36
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Overheating CPUs...
>
>
>
> There's a great AVI on www.tomshardware.com showing what happens when
the
> heatsink fails (i.e. falls off) on a 2Ghz P4, a 1GHz PIII and a 1.4Ghz
and
> 1.2Ghz "Palomino" Athalon...
>
> ...I hate to say it but the Intels were protected against the sudden
> temperature rise and either clocked down massively or hung but
> survived ...
> the Athalons however failed *BIG TIME* and smoked reaching 360deg
> C or more!
>
> It's the funniest 10Meg download you'll have seen in a while...
>
> Phil
>
>
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