RE: Creative Labs 6 Gig MP3 Player

["Phillip Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

I never said anything about the *KIT* being crap ... I didn't expand on
things but it was the service and treatment that my parents (at the time as
it was they that bought the computer) received.

IIRC the name of the guy at Watford was Nasir Jessa (it seems to come to
mind when I remember the events) - we had a seemingly endless string of
correspondence because a ROM based application was faulty on receipt. It
was
quite some time before it was replaced.

Remember also that at the time it was PCs that were pretty much a
proprietry
closed design ... BBCs and Acorns dominated the UK computing scene (and we
were all amazed by Epson FX80 printers!) so we're not talking a niche
market
product.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 27 March 2001 22:09
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Creative Labs 6 Gig MP3 Player
>
>
> I was gonna say guys....
>
> Hey just how long ago must you be talking about!?? - BBC micro's!?!?
>
> Not quite the same kind of thing at all really -
>
> BBC micro's = proprietary closed design, specialist skills required to
> repair them, specialist parts required to do it, limited supply
> choices for
> parts. (OK I know there was a thriving after market for add-ons, but
> no-one's going to try to argue that it was anything like as open or
> intensely competitive as the IBM compatible market is are they?)
>
> IBM compatible PC's = totally open design, a 5-year old could
> build one from
> standard parts, totally standardised component parts, a squillion
> suppliers
> of said parts.
>
> Don't get me wrong, - I'm >NOT< defending Watford. Like I said,
> I've never
> used them, so I have no opinion one way or the other, but after all
this
> time, the guy that gave you such obviously crap service has
> probably left!!!
>
> My point is (if there is one) is that in the current market
> environment, I
> would think it likely that whatever supplier you use, the kit
> that you get
> is more-or-less the same - IE whether you buy an ultra-cheapo
> from the likes
> of Watford, or (say) a Dell, the hard drive inside it is likely
> to be from
> exactly the same manufacturer! - the same quite possibly applies to
the
> motherboard, DEFINATELY applies to the CPU!! (AMD or Intel). I
therefore
> submit that it's unfair to slag them off with blanket statements
> about the
> kit being crap, cos its the same kit no matter who you get it from.
The
> differentiators are therefore the quality of service that you get
> from them,
> the feature set, and whether they use a lesser or greater degree of
> integration.
>
> Granted, there are cheaper or dearer components, but these
> generally tend to
> be priced by feature-set rather than quality, - with a few notable
> exceptions, (such as the Wretched Highpoint ATA66 controller) - but
again
> this is a good illustration of my point, - that damn HPT366 chip is to
be
> found on motherboards produced by EVERY major motherboard manufacturer
in
> the world! - you don't have to buy a ultra-cheap PC to end up with one
of
> these inside it! (as I know only too well)
>
> I guess what I am saying is that buying cheap does not
>guarantee< poor
> quality, any more than buying expensive >guarantees< good
> quality. In many
> other things this effect is not so marked, but the compatible PC
> marketplace
> is very distorted.
>
> £0.02 and I've nothing more to say on the matter ;-)
>
> Paul G.
>
>
>
> >From: "Phillip Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Creative Labs 6 Gig MP3 Player
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:28:28 +0100
> >
> >I must say that the one time I dealt with Watford I had no end
> of problems
> >-
> >it was about 13 years ago though.
> >
> >Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ant Skelton [mailto:ant@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 27 March 2001 20:13
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Creative Labs 6 Gig MP3 Player
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Gordon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How about this one - a quick scan in this months PCW
has thus
> > > far turned up:
> > > >
> > > > Watford Electronics (www.watford.co.uk)
> > >
> > >    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > There's yer problem right there ;) It won't turn up for
> weeks, and when
> > > it does it'll be broken and you'll practically have to take
them to
> > > court to get a refund.
> > >
> > > ant
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