RE: Re: Bit the bullet...

["Kenneth Watt" <kennethwatt@xxxxxxx>]

Phil,

I've been thinking about this as a serious option, what is the skinny on
the
service?

Ta

K

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 March 2001 11:24
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...


I had already tried the satellite based option ... it was some time ago so
download speeds were OK but again, using a modem for upload was abysmal and
was just too asymetric to work for me.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 25 March 2001 19:07
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
>
>
> Yeah, cable's what I want or DSL but at a reasonable price! Telewest
has
> been pumping in cables around here like they were going out of fashion
but
> there's been no word on any services yet at all.
>
> If like you used to have a cable service for £20 a month then
> that would be
> worthwhile but for the moment I'm stuck with either PSTN, HH or Sky!
>
> Sky's an option, using your sky dish as a receiver it promises
> downloads at
> up to 2Mpbs but one provider has suspended sales and I have heard
quite a
> few complaints about the speed. Whether that's just people being picky
and
> expecting too much or not I don't know as I do not know anyone
> that is using
> this service. You can now get this here:
> http://www.europeonline.com/index_en.html
currently the cost is 262 Euros
> for the pack allowing access and the necessary card (this includes the
50
> Euro deposit on the card) and equates to £156 approx when converted.
This
> does not include your ISP or call charges, which are additional
> and down to
> you for the upstream connection.
>
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 24 March 2001 13:21
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
>
>
> It's six months according to the terms of what I agreed to ... after
six
> months then I'll probably be looking at the cable companies for
> telephony if
> I'm not happy with HH or if they've got cablemodems working at last.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx
> > [mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 24 March 2001 20:57
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
> >
> >
> > It is worth bearing in mind that you have to sign up for a years
> > contract with Home Highway, and they will charge you to convert
it
> > back after that period.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@y..., "Phillip Harris"
<phillip.harris1@v...> wrote:
> > > I completely agree with your dislike of HH from the
standpoint of
> > cost and
> > > coming from a house where I had a cablemodem before then I
am
> > really feeling
> > > the pinch however for me the deal was worthwhile.
> > >
> > > At the moment we have one phone line and I am tying it up
all the
> > time. For
> > > £39.99 (not £45.98) we get the second line (worth - say -
£10), I
> > get my
> > > 6pm - 8am and weekends internet access (worth £15) and £7
worth of
> > calls
> > > lobbed in, this is in addition to our single line as well.
> > >
> > > I considered the "all local calls inclusive"
package but I make few
> > local
> > > calls ... my family are 300 miles away and my partners
family are
> > in the
> > > next village and we see then every day. All our friends are
further
> > out than
> > > woul be counted as a local call and so this just wasn't of
use to
> > us.
> > >
> > > When HH was £49.95 a month *PLUS* calls *PLUS* ISP service
then it
> > was
> > > horrendously overpriced ... this is actually quite a
reasonable
> > deal now.
> > > Sure ... if I hear from my mate at NTL that they've managed
to
> > piggyback
> > > digital services onto the crappy old Cable and Wireless
network and
> > will be
> > > offering cablemodem service for £20 a month then I'll be
beating a
> > path to
> > > their door but untill then (given that I have more chance of
> > winning Miss
> > > World than getting ADSL which I also think is a bit
overpriced at
> > the moment
> > > compared with cablemodems) in the current round of
evalations then
> > the HH
> > > deal is best for me ... especially given that I don't
currently
> > have the
> > > luxury of the clean data streams that you get from your
analogue
> > modem.
> > > Remember it's a combination of the data rates and dialup
times that
> > have
> > > prompted me to make this choice in the first place.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 24 March 2001 02:41
> > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil,
> > > >
> > > > I have studied this in depth of late after BT changed
their
> > pricing and it
> > > > equates to this:
> > > >
> > > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) =
£19.99 a month
> > with ALL
> > > > local calls (unlimited) under 60 minutes duration
included and
> > your line
> > > > rental.
> > > >
> > > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) =
£14.99 a month
> > with line
> > > > rental and some discounts.
> > > >
> > > > Extra PSTN line = £9.59
> > > >
> > > > So a PSTN x2 inclusive of all local calls off peak and
weekend as
> > well as
> > > > net access would cost £29.58 per month as opposed to
£45.98 a
> > month for a
> > > > similar package using HH and that's without the local
unlimited
> > calls.
> > > >
> > > > In other words HH is £48.00 a quarter more expensive
than
> > > > standard lines and
> > > > I think that is too expensive for what it is! Yes it
does have
> > advantages
> > > > and is better than two standard lines, but BT charge
£39.99 a
> > month, for
> > > > that kind of money I want DSL not some muffed up
half-way-house
> > > > between true
> > > > ISDN and a standard line. If BT want an extra £200 a
year out of
> > > > me they are
> > > > gonna have to do better than HH.
> > > >
> > > > I will miss HH for convenience, but I won't miss the
bill!
> > > >
> > > > K.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 23 March 2001 02:03
> > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed ... if we eventually get Cablemodems or ADSL in
my area
> > > > then I'll be
> > > > there waving my chequebook but given that I currently
only have
> > > > one analogue
> > > > line in at home then this isn't a bad deal at all for
me.
> > > >
> > > > £40 a month gets me HomeHighway (effectively two
phonelines) plus
> > > > 6pm to 8am
> > > > weekday and all weekend internet access (which was
going to cost
> > me £15 a
> > > > month via BT for a modem based service). There's a call
allowance
> > included
> > > > and I won't be tying on the only phone line into the
house all
> > > > weekend, plus
> > > > of course the quick dialup times are a real draw given
that I
> > can't get an
> > > > "always on" service yet. I have been finding
that my modem takes
> > about 1.5
> > > > minutes to dial up and log on and then I get between
1.7 and
> > 2kbytes a
> > > > second transfer rates. HH isn't ideal but it's the best
solution
> > > > I can find
> > > > at the moment.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > > Sent: 23 March 2001 09:02
> > > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > A router would be nice, (in fact I have an
Ascend Pipeline
> > > > > kicking around
> > > > > if
> > > > > > I ever get it working!) because I wouldnt
have to have a
> > > > > particular PC
> > > > > > turned on, but using ICS does give you the
ability to use
> > > > > <Mark - insert
> > > > > the
> > > > > > name of that dialler program here please!>
to automate
> > dialups to
> > > > > different
> > > > > > numbers at different times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dialer 2000?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to add after the negative post that
personally I LOVE
> > > > > HH.  Of course
> > > > > I would prefer broadband access but where I live
it's not an
> > > > > option.  Like
> > > > > Keith I was lucky to get connections in the mid
40s.  HH
> > > > > gives me over 7K/s
> > > > > on most downloads.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another big plus over a modem is the speed of
connection,
> > > > > especially if you
> > > > > need multiple re-dials when your ISP is busy.
> > > > >
> > > > > M.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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