RE: Re: Bit the bullet...

["Kenneth Watt" <kennethwatt@xxxxxxx>]

Yeah, cable's what I want or DSL but at a reasonable price! Telewest has
been pumping in cables around here like they were going out of fashion but
there's been no word on any services yet at all.

If like you used to have a cable service for £20 a month then that would be
worthwhile but for the moment I'm stuck with either PSTN, HH or Sky!

Sky's an option, using your sky dish as a receiver it promises downloads at
up to 2Mpbs but one provider has suspended sales and I have heard quite a
few complaints about the speed. Whether that's just people being picky and
expecting too much or not I don't know as I do not know anyone that is
using
this service. You can now get this here:
http://www.europeonline.com/index_en.html
currently the cost is 262 Euros
for the pack allowing access and the necessary card (this includes the 50
Euro deposit on the card) and equates to £156 approx when converted. This
does not include your ISP or call charges, which are additional and down to
you for the upstream connection.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 March 2001 13:21
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...


It's six months according to the terms of what I agreed to ... after six
months then I'll probably be looking at the cable companies for telephony
if
I'm not happy with HH or if they've got cablemodems working at last.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx
> [mailto:richard.lockyer@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 24 March 2001 20:57
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Bit the bullet...
>
>
> It is worth bearing in mind that you have to sign up for a years
> contract with Home Highway, and they will charge you to convert it
> back after that period.
>
> Richard
>
> --- In ukha_d@y..., "Phillip Harris"
<phillip.harris1@v...> wrote:
> > I completely agree with your dislike of HH from the standpoint of
> cost and
> > coming from a house where I had a cablemodem before then I am
> really feeling
> > the pinch however for me the deal was worthwhile.
> >
> > At the moment we have one phone line and I am tying it up all the
> time. For
> > £39.99 (not £45.98) we get the second line (worth - say - £10), I
> get my
> > 6pm - 8am and weekends internet access (worth £15) and £7 worth
of
> calls
> > lobbed in, this is in addition to our single line as well.
> >
> > I considered the "all local calls inclusive" package
but I make few
> local
> > calls ... my family are 300 miles away and my partners family are
> in the
> > next village and we see then every day. All our friends are
further
> out than
> > woul be counted as a local call and so this just wasn't of use to
> us.
> >
> > When HH was £49.95 a month *PLUS* calls *PLUS* ISP service then
it
> was
> > horrendously overpriced ... this is actually quite a reasonable
> deal now.
> > Sure ... if I hear from my mate at NTL that they've managed to
> piggyback
> > digital services onto the crappy old Cable and Wireless network
and
> will be
> > offering cablemodem service for £20 a month then I'll be beating
a
> path to
> > their door but untill then (given that I have more chance of
> winning Miss
> > World than getting ADSL which I also think is a bit overpriced at
> the moment
> > compared with cablemodems) in the current round of evalations
then
> the HH
> > deal is best for me ... especially given that I don't currently
> have the
> > luxury of the clean data streams that you get from your analogue
> modem.
> > Remember it's a combination of the data rates and dialup times
that
> have
> > prompted me to make this choice in the first place.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 24 March 2001 02:41
> > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil,
> > >
> > > I have studied this in depth of late after BT changed their
> pricing and it
> > > equates to this:
> > >
> > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) = £19.99 a
month
> with ALL
> > > local calls (unlimited) under 60 minutes duration included
and
> your line
> > > rental.
> > >
> > > BT Surftime package (evening an weekend access) = £14.99 a
month
> with line
> > > rental and some discounts.
> > >
> > > Extra PSTN line = £9.59
> > >
> > > So a PSTN x2 inclusive of all local calls off peak and
weekend as
> well as
> > > net access would cost £29.58 per month as opposed to £45.98
a
> month for a
> > > similar package using HH and that's without the local
unlimited
> calls.
> > >
> > > In other words HH is £48.00 a quarter more expensive than
> > > standard lines and
> > > I think that is too expensive for what it is! Yes it does
have
> advantages
> > > and is better than two standard lines, but BT charge £39.99
a
> month, for
> > > that kind of money I want DSL not some muffed up
half-way-house
> > > between true
> > > ISDN and a standard line. If BT want an extra £200 a year
out of
> > > me they are
> > > gonna have to do better than HH.
> > >
> > > I will miss HH for convenience, but I won't miss the bill!
> > >
> > > K.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 23 March 2001 02:03
> > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed ... if we eventually get Cablemodems or ADSL in my
area
> > > then I'll be
> > > there waving my chequebook but given that I currently only
have
> > > one analogue
> > > line in at home then this isn't a bad deal at all for me.
> > >
> > > £40 a month gets me HomeHighway (effectively two phonelines)
plus
> > > 6pm to 8am
> > > weekday and all weekend internet access (which was going to
cost
> me £15 a
> > > month via BT for a modem based service). There's a call
allowance
> included
> > > and I won't be tying on the only phone line into the house
all
> > > weekend, plus
> > > of course the quick dialup times are a real draw given that
I
> can't get an
> > > "always on" service yet. I have been finding that
my modem takes
> about 1.5
> > > minutes to dial up and log on and then I get between 1.7 and
> 2kbytes a
> > > second transfer rates. HH isn't ideal but it's the best
solution
> > > I can find
> > > at the moment.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark McCall [mailto:mark@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 23 March 2001 09:02
> > > > To: ukha_d@y...
> > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Bit the bullet...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > A router would be nice, (in fact I have an Ascend
Pipeline
> > > > kicking around
> > > > if
> > > > > I ever get it working!) because I wouldnt have to
have a
> > > > particular PC
> > > > > turned on, but using ICS does give you the ability
to use
> > > > <Mark - insert
> > > > the
> > > > > name of that dialler program here please!> to
automate
> dialups to
> > > > different
> > > > > numbers at different times.
> > > >
> > > > Dialer 2000?
> > > >
> > > > I have to add after the negative post that personally I
LOVE
> > > > HH.  Of course
> > > > I would prefer broadband access but where I live it's
not an
> > > > option.  Like
> > > > Keith I was lucky to get connections in the mid 40s. 
HH
> > > > gives me over 7K/s
> > > > on most downloads.
> > > >
> > > > Another big plus over a modem is the speed of
connection,
> > > > especially if you
> > > > need multiple re-dials when your ISP is busy.
> > > >
> > > > M.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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