RE: Techno Games

["Bird, Ian" <ian.bird@xxxxxxx>]

I'm in. Always wanted to have a go at robot wars as well but it hasn't
quit=
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happened yet. On techno games I always thought the testing of the units was
crap. I only saw 5 mins of the one a couple of days ago. There was a
rotating slingshot affair for the shot put. It rotated very fast and would
have won BUT.... it was manual release and they never got it out of the
throwing area. Ten out of ten for hitting the netting though. Surely a
predictable mechanical release was not too much to add?

Let me know if it gets off the ground as it looks like fun

Ian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy.powell@xxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:andy.powell@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 07 March 2001 08:22
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Techno Games
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> Even worse last night in the 'high jump' a couple of people=20
> had a small=20
> spring - which basically had absolutely nothing to do with=20
> robots at all.M
>  ethinks they are a little slack in their vetting process.=20
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> The micromouse event is clearly the 'real' robotics event and=20
> the others=20
> are the equivalent of remote control car racing.=20
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> With regards to the bicycle event - it wouldn't have taken=20
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>  ollow the line around the competitors lane, if fact following a=20
> light/dark line is one of the basic out of the box abilities=20
> of the lego=20
> mindstorms stuff....  not only that but I disagree that buying a
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> bike, adding some stabilisers, batteries and steering mechanism and=20
> putting it together in a functioning system is going to=20
> require masses ofR
>  &D.
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> I've found the whole program a little bit iffy.... especially=20
> as, again,=20
> last night, when it came to the swimming event most of the=20
> competitors=20
> hadn't even tested their machines! Perhaps we should enter a=20
> machine, I'ms
>  ure with all the electronics abilities etc is this list we=20
> could get a=20
> super machine to compete in multiple events!
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> "David Paterson (Pixi)" <david.paterson@xxxxxxx>
> 06/03/2001 23:30
> Please respond to ukha_d
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>         To:     ukha_d@xxxxxxx
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>         Subject:        Re: [ukha_d] Techno Games
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> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:36:30 +0100, you wrote:
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> >I watched it last night, to be honest I was disappointed I=20
> expected that>
>  the robots would NOT be remote controlled (certainly for the=20
> races) ie=20
> >they would 'sense' their surroundings.... I mean how=20
> difficult is it to=20
> >take a remote controlled car and turn it into  a robot (all=20
> be it with=20
> >legs)...
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> I thought there might be a bit more "autonomy" too, but it's
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> harder than you might think to really put any intelligence into stuff
> like this.  I was involved in a micromouse team many years=20
> ago (the one
> part of the contest that does show some real AI) and there=20
> are a lot of
> very hard problems to solve.
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> Even in computer games or simulations, where you can have complete
> knowledge of the environment, perfect sensors, perfect physics etc.,
> it's still very hard to get effective AI that is worth=20
> playing against.
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> Something like a bicycle riding system would take a lot of development
> and research, and most of the teams are very amateur school or similar
> groups - some of them have done amazingly well with what they've
> produced.
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> I think it bodes well for the future that there are so many=20
> young people
> interested in trying stuff like this.  Even if it's not cutting edge,
> they're learning and developing their skills, which can only=20
> be good for
> the country - and some of them might even go on to develop=20
> some neat HA
> gear for us :-)
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> DP
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