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Keith -
I am using an unusual email client (Eudora on Mac) and it is doing
some strange things - eg I can't read Kenneth Watts posts. I would be
interested if other people are experiencing the problem Keith
mentions.
I am
about to move over to Outlook soon (Windows) so it might get
better.
Kevin
PS I have been running about like a headless chicken recently -
maybe that explains it ?
Is it just me who is receiving some
messages without a proper header ?
Many of them seem t originate from Kevin Hawkins.
Is it something to do with the HTML stuff down the bottom?
Kevin, are you using some strange email client that screws the header
up?
I sometimes also receiver messages that say "Sent t <whole
string of
numbers>" but these can be from anyone on the list and is just
Yahoo getting
in a muddle.
Keith
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> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:59:45 +0100
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> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] [comfort-technical] Interfacing with
> Homevision and Power Cuts
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> No problem - it's just a bit
inefficient 12/24V upconverted
> t 230V and back again t 9V but that's what you have to do.
>
>
> I don't do this as I have a
standby 12V car battery for the
> low voltage stuff and I keep it trickle charged. I guess you
could
> tap int the UPS battery supply if you were so inclined.
>
> I hate wall warts with a
vengeance - particularly the
> unmarked ones that once separated from their intended you never
know
> which is for what. (having fried a router this way). They also
never
> fit on muti-way adaptors.
>
> Kevin
>
> >Is it OK (or advisable) to plug HomeVision wall wart int the
UPS too?
> >
> >M.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:tivo@xxxxxxx>Kevin Hawkins
> >To:
<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:59 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ukha_d]
[comfort-technical] Interfacing with
> >Homevision and Power
Cuts
> >
> >
> >
Mike, I use these 3 products together just as you say - it is
> >really just about delegating the various power fail tasks
logically
> >& correctly t the appropriate hardware. I do use a UPS
on my main
> >HA PC as I have found most power outages are very
short. You can
> >feedback recovery status from Comfort t HV (or vv) through
the i/o
> >ports. Comfort also has a location to do a Response based on
power
> >restoration - if you need to know which one I'll find it
somewhere.
> >It is not as easily set up as HV's system wide recovery
actions but
> >as it is a response you can do anything you need to with
> >perseverence.
> >
> > Best way t seamlessly join is
the UCM supplemented (if
> >necessary) by a couple of i/o ports. The UCM allows you to
resync
> >Comforts state info to ACE quite easily.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >PS I don't use Sylva boards - no reason I just don't need
them. The
> >HV exp unit currently provides enough i/o for me.
> >
> >>Need some advice really
> >>
> >Comfort isn't affected by power cut because of the
Battery
> >
> >Homevision prides itself on recovering after a power
cut
> >
> >So what is the best way t seamlessly join these two
together?
> >
> >I'm thinking of using Sylva boards to interface the two
for
> important stuff
> >
> >And ACE for general status
> >
> >I chose that route because of the PC's tendency to crash
> >
> >But have just realised in a Power out situation the system
interface
> >could get terribly out of step
> >
> >Has any one else run int problems with this?
> >
> >
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
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<div><x-tab> </x-tab>No
> problem - it's just a bit inefficient 12/24V upconverted t 230V
and
> back again t 9V but that's what you have to do. </div>
> <div><br></div>
> <div><br></div>
>
<div><x-tab> </x-tab>I don't
> do this as I have a standby 12V car battery for the low voltage
stuff
> and I keep it trickle charged. I guess you could tap int the
UPS
> battery supply if you were so inclined.</div>
> <div><br></div>
>
<div><x-tab> </x-tab>I hate
> wall warts with a vengeance - particularly the unmarked ones that
once
> separated from their intended you never know which is for
what.
> (having fried a router this way). They also never fit on
muti-way
> adaptors.</div>
> <div><br></div>
>
<div><x-tab>
> </x-tab>Kevin</div>
> <div><br></div>
> <blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Arial" size="-1">Is it OK (or
> advisable) to plug HomeVision wall wart int the UPS
> too?</font></blockquote>
> <blockquote type="cite"
cite> </blockquote>
> <blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Arial"
> size="-1">M.</font><br>
> <blockquote>----- Original Message
-----</blockquote>
> <blockquote><b>From:</b> <a
href=""mailto:tivo@xxxxxxx">Kevin
> Hawkins</a></blockquote>
> <blockquote><b>To:</b> <a
>
href=""mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx">ukha_d@xxxxxxx"
>com</a></b
> lockquote
> >
> <blockquote><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 23, 2001
11:59 AM</blockquote>
> <blockquote><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d]
[comfort-technical]
> Interfacing with Homevision and Power Cuts</blockquote>
> <blockquote><br></blockquote>
> <blockquote><br></blockquote>
>
<blockquote><x-tab>
> </x-tab>Mike, I use these 3 products together just as you
say - it is
> really just about delegating the various power fail tasks
logically &
> correctly t the appropriate hardware. I do use a UPS on my main
HA
> PC as I have found most power outages are very short.
You can
> feedback recovery status from
Comfort t HV (or vv) through the i/o
> ports. Comfort also has a location to do a Response based on
power
> restoration - if you need to know which one I'll find it
somewhere. It
> is not as easily set up as HV's system wide recovery actions but
as it
> is a response you can do anything you need to with
> perseverence.</blockquote>
> <blockquote><br></blockquote>
>
<blockquote><x-tab>
> </x-tab>Best way t seamlessly join is the UCM supplemented
(if
> necessary) by a couple of i/o ports. The UCM allows you to
resync
> Comforts state info to ACE quite easily.</blockquote>
> <blockquote><br></blockquote>
>
<blockquote><x-tab>
> </x-tab>Kevin</blockquote>
> <blockquote><br></blockquote>
> <blockquote>PS I don't use Sylva boards - no reason I just
don't need
> them. The HV exp unit currently provides enough i/o for
> me.</blockquote>
> <blockquote><br>
> <blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Arial" size="-1"
> color="#000080">Need some advice
really</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Comfort isn't
> affected by power cut because of the
Battery</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Homevision
> prides itself on recovering after a power
cut</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">So what is
> the best way t seamlessly join these two
together?</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I'm thinking
> of using Sylva boards to interface the two for important
> stuff</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">And ACE for
> general status</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I chose that
> route because of the PC's tendency to
crash</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">But have just
> realised in a Power out situation the system interface could
get
> terribly out of step</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">Has any one
> else run int problems with this?</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Arial"
size="-1"
>
color="#000080"> </font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Comic Sans MS"
color="#000080">Mike</font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font face="Comic Sans MS"
size="-2"
>
color="#000080"> </font><br>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote><font size="-2"
color="#000080">Sent from Home</font><br>
> </blockquote>
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size="-1"
>
color="#000080"> </font><br>
> </blockquote>
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> <blockquote><br>
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