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Re: WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN Messenger
I'm....
ukha@xxxxxxx
...on MSN.
M.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Watt" <kennethwatt@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN Messenger
> Got it!
>
> If anyone is looking for me the mail for MSN is kennethwatt@xxxxxxx
>
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Harris [mailto:phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 01 July 2001 20:38
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN
> Messenger
>
>
> Just search for us under our email addresses...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 01 July 2001 20:14
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN
> > Messenger
> >
> >
> > Paul, Phil etc,
> >
> > What's your MSN identity? Gimme details guys! :-)
> >
> > K.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 01 July 2001 20:09
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> >
> > Here Here! - and sorry again for the excess traffic!
> >
> > As a direct result of last nights banter, several people are now
set
> up
> > with
> > MSN IM, and about 6 people are now added to my buddy list thast
> weren't
> > there before...
> >
> > I think Phil & I have both learned our lesson... (Paul looks
> > sheepish...),
> > and we are both now on IM and will, if the need ever arises again
t
> > conduct
> > drunken inane ramblings at 3 in the morning, use that to do so...
-
> > anyone
> > who wants to join in is welcome!
> >
> > Paul G. (ba-aaaahhh)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mick Furlong" <dorsai@xxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > >Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:14:16 +0100
> > >
> > >Sorry folks it is a year since I was on a modem link (thank
> heavens!),
> > how
> > >long did it take people to download the emails from last
night?
> > >
> > >In any case I think that we risk spoiling all the good stuff
that
> comes
> > >through if we move stuff onto IRC or IM. I think IRC is great
for
> > certain
> > >things but it cannot replace the mailing list (and I have
been using
> > IRC
> > >for
> > >a lot of years). Ok you can log the channels but then either
someone
> > has t
> > >edit it or we will have to read through the chat to get t
the meat.
> > >
> > >As to Phil Paul and anyone else posting OT drunken drivel t
the
> list
> > (I
> > >recall doing it myself on occasion) well I find it good fun.
I was
> > stone
> > >cold sober last night and had a good laugh at Phil and Paul
antics as
> > did a
> > >few others I think. This is supposed to be fun lets not take
it to
> > >seriously.
> > >
> > >So my vote is use the list for most things and IRC or IM only
for
> > limited
> > >uses
> > >
> > >Mick.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 01 July 2001 19:06
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One small drawback with IRC as opposed to Instant
Messaging:
> > > >
> > > > IM services are exactly what they state and almost
every PC
> running
> > a
> > > > Win 9* platform has AOL or MSN built into it, IRC is
more of an
> > internet
> > > > die-hard format these days. Therefore IRC is not as
accessible to
> > new
> > > > users as IM services, IMO.
> > > >
> > > > I would agree that for the project that IRC is the
answer, for
> sure,
> > but
> > > > for general chit-chat I just don't know!
> > > >
> > > > Let's face it the fact is 95% of PC's out there are
running on a
> > Windows
> > > > platform, those users that are running another OS are
usually very
> > > > computer literate and can adapt easily to alternatives
on their
> > chosen
> > > > OS.
> > > >
> > > > K.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 01 July 2001 23:40
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > > >
> > > > Yes but that's my point .... if they have a prior
inclination to
> be
> > > > involved then IRC is a valuable tool, and remember I
said the
> > scripts
> > > > could be pasted in an email and sent t the list as
well ..... so
> no
> > one
> > > >
> > > > has t miss out :-)
> > > >
> > > > People on list can still comment on the conversations
from IRC as
> > they
> > > > have the script in theie email -- so no one is ruled
out.
> > > >
> > > > Phil Harris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The problem I see with IRC is that people aren't
looking in on
> the
> > > > > conversation and contributing actively unless they
have a prior
> > > > inclinatiuon
> > > > > to be involved.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the large mail lists ... I have no problems
with
> > shift-deleting
> > > > a
> > > > > swathe of emails (I do it with most of the project
ones since
> I'm
> > not
> > > > > involved in that) but it does put some people off
who aren't so
> > > > dedicated to
> > > > > the "cause". I use ISDN to retrieve my
mail because where I am a
> > > > normal
> > > > > modem runs at about 1.4k/sec so I do know what
it's like to have
> > to
> > > > wait for
> > > > > large numbers of mails to download.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> > > > >> Sent: 01 July 2001 23:27
> > > > >> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Phil ... yes ... but no!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes I agree IRC requires real time meetings
.... but these can
> be
> > > > >> arranged if necessary if there specific to
something rather
> than
> > just
> > > > >> chatting. It's a compliment t email, not a
replacement ... but
> > it is
> > > > >> beneficial when groups of people need to
discuss something ...
> > email
> > > > >> *does* clog the lists and can take a long time
to host a short
> > > > >> disscusion. A meeting on IRC can have the
scripts recorded
> which
> > can
> > > > >> then be edited [if neccesary] and posted as a
single email to
> the
> > > > list,
> > > > >> thus reducing traffic and ensuring no one is
left out :-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> instant messengers and related chat functions
however are more
> of
> > a
> > > > >> problem ... I would suggest email complimented
by IRC as there
> > are
> > > > many
> > > > >> free clients for just about every OS under the
sun.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Phil, stop apologising please, it's easy to
select the first
> > entry
> > > > and
> > > > >> shift select the last then press <del>
;-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Phil Harris wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Looking at it with my sensible hat on ...
there's a lot of
> > > > >>
> > > > >> people get a lot
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> of usefull information from the group. IRC
isn't going to work
> > > > >>
> > > > >> so well as it
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> depends on a conversation taking place in
real time rather
> than
> > > > >>
> > > > >> via email
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> where the two parties can leave and join a
"conversation" as
> > > > >>
> > > > >> they feel like
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> it and others can join in when they feel
they have something
> to
> > > > >>
> > > > >> contribute.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> If people have been put off the group by
last nights sillyness
> > then
> > > > I'm
> > > > >>> afraid thats my fault and rather than them
consider going
> > elsewhere
> > > > for
> > > > >>> information (which I really don't think
they'll get as good
> > support
> > > > >>> elsewhere as people give here) *OR*
consider fragmenting the
> > > > >>
> > > > >> list over into
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> IRC where I think lots of good information
will get missed
> I'll
> > > > >>
> > > > >> go walkabout
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> for a bit and let people breathe a little
easier that they
> > > > >>
> > > > >> won't get floods
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> of my conversations.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Basically I think it will detract from the
groups ability to
> > jump in
> > > > on
> > > > >>> conversations or contribute after the fact
if this group was
> to
> > > > >>
> > > > >> split into
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> an IRC section and an email based section.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Phil
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Calum Morrell
> > > > >> The Morrell Group
> > > > >> Tel : 0709 214 1538
> > > > >> Fax : 0870 131 5408
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "For as long as but a hundred of us
remain alive, never will we
> > > > >> on any conditions be brought under English
rule. It is not for
> > > > >> glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are
fighting, but for
> > > > >> freedom - for that alone, which no honest man
gives up but with
> > > > >> life itself." From The Declaration of
Arbroath 1320.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > > > "For as long as but a hundred of us remain alive,
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