RE: WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN Messenger

["Paul Gordon" <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx>]

exactly the same as my email address: paul_gordon@xxxxxxx

Paul G.

>From: "Kenneth Watt" <kennethwatt@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] WAS New poll for ukha_d now all about MSN
Messenger
>Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:14:18 +0100
>
>Paul, Phil etc,
>
>What's your MSN identity? Gimme details guys! :-)
>
>K.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 01 July 2001 20:09
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
>
>Here Here! - and sorry again for the excess traffic!
>
>As a direct result of last nights banter, several people are now set up
>with
>MSN IM, and about 6 people are now added to my buddy list thast weren't
>there before...
>
>I think Phil & I have both learned our lesson... (Paul looks
>sheepish...),
>and we are both now on IM and will, if the need ever arises again to
>conduct
>drunken inane ramblings at 3 in the morning, use that to d  so... -
>anyone
>who wants to join in is welcome!
>
>Paul G.  (ba-aaaahhh)
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Mick Furlong" <dorsai@xxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> >To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> >Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> >Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:14:16 +0100
> >
> >Sorry folks it is a year since I was on a modem link (thank
heavens!),
>how
> >long did it take people to d wnload the emails from last night?
> >
> >In any case I think that we risk spoiling all the good stuff that
comes
> >through if we move stuff  nto IRC or IM. I think IRC is great for
>certain
> >things but it cannot replace the mailing list (and I have been
using
>IRC
> >for
> >a lot of years). Ok you can log the channels but then either
someone
>has to
> >edit it or we will have t  read through the chat to get t  the
meat.
> >
> >As to Phil Paul and anyone else  posting OT drunken drivel t  the
list
>(I
> >recall d ing it myself  n occasion) well I find it good fun. I was
>stone
> >cold sober last night and had a good laugh at Phil and Paul antics
as
>did a
> >few others I think. This is supposed to be fun lets not take it to
> >seriously.
> >
> >So my vote is use the list for most things and IRC or IM  nly for
>limited
> >uses
> >
> >Mick.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kennethwatt@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 01 July 2001 19:06
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > >
> > >
> > > One small drawback with IRC as opposed to Instant Messaging:
> > >
> > > IM services are exactly what they state and almost every PC
running
>a
> > > Win 9* platform has AOL or MSN built into it, IRC is more of
an
>internet
> > > die-hard format these days. Therefore IRC is not as
accessible t
>new
> > > users as IM services, IMO.
> > >
> > > I would agree that for the project that IRC is the answer,
for sure,
>but
> > > for general chit-chat I just don't know!
> > >
> > > Let's face it the fact is 95% of PC's out there are running
on a
>Windows
> > > platform, those users that are running another OS are
usually very
> > > computer literate and can adapt easily t  alternatives on
their
>chosen
> > > OS.
> > >
> > > K.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 01 July 2001 23:40
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > >
> > > Yes but that's my point .... if they have a prior
inclination to be
> > > involved then IRC is a valuable t ol, and remember I said
the
>scripts
> > > could be pasted in an email and sent t  the list as well
..... so no
>one
> > >
> > > has to miss out :-)
> > >
> > > People on list can still comment on the conversations from
IRC as
>they
> > > have the script in theie email -- so no one is ruled out.
> > >
> > > Phil Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > > The problem I see with IRC is that people aren't
looking in on the
> > > > conversation and c ntributing actively unless they have
a prior
> > > inclinatiuon
> > > > to be involved.
> > > >
> > > > As for the large mail lists ... I have no problems with
>shift-deleting
> > > a
> > > > swathe of emails (I d  it with most of the project ones
since I'm
>not
> > > > involved in that) but it does put some people off who
aren't so
> > > dedicated to
> > > > the "cause". I use ISDN t  retrieve my mail
because where I am a
> > > normal
> > > > modem runs at about 1.4k/sec so I d  know what it's
like to have
>to
> > > wait for
> > > > large numbers of mails to d wnload.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> > > >> Sent: 01 July 2001 23:27
> > > >> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Phil ... yes ... but no!
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes I agree IRC requires real time meetings ....
but these can be
> > > >> arranged if necessary if there specific to
something rather than
>just
> > > >> chatting. It's a compliment t  email, not a
replacement ... but
>it is
> > > >> beneficial when groups of people need to discuss
something ...
>email
> > > >> *does* clog the lists and can take a long time to
host a short
> > > >> disscusion. A meeting on IRC can have the scripts
recorded which
>can
> > > >> then be edited [if neccesary] and posted as a
single email t  the
> > > list,
> > > >> thus reducing traffic and ensuring no one is left
out :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> instant messengers and related chat functions
however are more of
>a
> > > >> problem ... I would suggest email complimented by
IRC as there
>are
> > > many
> > > >> free clients for just about every OS under the sun.
> > > >>
> > > >> Phil, stop apologising please, it's easy t  select
the first
>entry
> > > and
> > > >> shift select the last then press <del> ;-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Phil Harris wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Looking at it with my sensible hat on ...
there's a lot of
> > > >>
> > > >> people get a lot
> > > >>
> > > >>> of usefull information from the group. IRC
isn't g ing t  work
> > > >>
> > > >> s  well as it
> > > >>
> > > >>> depends on a conversation taking place in real
time rather than
> > > >>
> > > >> via email
> > > >>
> > > >>> where the two parties can leave and join a
"conversation" as
> > > >>
> > > >> they feel like
> > > >>
> > > >>> it and others can join in when they feel they
have something to
> > > >>
> > > >> c ntribute.
> > > >>
> > > >>> If people have been put off the group by last
nights sillyness
>then
> > > I'm
> > > >>> afraid thats my fault and rather than them c
nsider g ing
>elsewhere
> > > for
> > > >>> information (which I really don't think they'll
get as good
>support
> > > >>> elsewhere as people give here) *OR* c nsider
fragmenting the
> > > >>
> > > >> list over into
> > > >>
> > > >>> IRC where I think lots of good information will
get missed I'll
> > > >>
> > > >> go walkabout
> > > >>
> > > >>> for a bit and let people breathe a little
easier that they
> > > >>
> > > >> won't get floods
> > > >>
> > > >>> of my conversations.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Basically I think it will detract from the
groups ability to
>jump in
> > > on
> > > >>> conversations or c ntribute after the fact if
this group was to
> > > >>
> > > >> split into
> > > >>
> > > >>> an IRC section and an email based section.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Phil
> > > >>>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Calum Morrell
> > > >> The Morrell Group
> > > >> Tel : 0709 214 1538
> > > >> Fax : 0870 131 5408
> > > >>
> > > >> "For as long as but a hundred of us remain
alive, never will we
> > > >> on any conditions be brought under English rule. It
is not for
> > > >> glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are
fighting, but for
> > > >> freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives
up but with
> > > >> life itself." From The Declaration of Arbroath
1320.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > "For as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never
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