RE: New poll for ukha_d

["Kenneth Watt" <kennethwatt@xxxxxxx>]

One small drawback with IRC as opposed t  Instant Messaging:

IM services are exactly what they state and almost every PC running a
Win 9* platform has AOL or MSN built int  it, IRC is more of an internet
die-hard format these days. Therefore IRC is not as accessible t  new
users as IM services, IMO.

I would agree that for the project that IRC is the answer, for sure, but
for general chit-chat I just don't know!

Let's face it the fact is 95% of PC's out there are running on a Windows
platform, those users that are running another OS are usually very
computer literate and can adapt easily t  alternatives on their chosen
OS.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 01 July 2001 23:40
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d

Yes but that's my point .... if they have a prior inclination to be
involved then IRC is a valuable t ol, and remember I said the scripts
could be pasted in an email and sent to the list as well ..... so no one

has to miss out :-)

People on list can still comment on the conversations from IRC as they
have the script in theie email -- so no one is ruled out.

Phil Harris wrote:

> The problem I see with IRC is that people aren't looking in on the
> conversation and contributing actively unless they have a prior
inclinatiuon
> t  be involved.
>
> As for the large mail lists ... I have no problems with shift-deleting
a
> swathe of emails (I do it with most of the project ones since I'm not
> involved in that) but it does put some people off who aren't so
dedicated t
> the "cause". I use ISDN t  retrieve my mail because where I
am a
normal
> modem runs at about 1.4k/sec so I do know what it's like t  have to
wait for
> large numbers of mails t  download.
>
> Phil
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 01 July 2001 23:27
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
>>
>>
>> Phil ... yes ... but no!
>>
>> Yes I agree IRC requires real time meetings .... but these can be
>> arranged if necessary if there specific to something rather than
just
>> chatting. It's a compliment to email, not a replacement ... but it
is
>> beneficial when groups of people need t  discuss something ...
email
>> *does* clog the lists and can take a long time to host a short
>> disscusion. A meeting on IRC can have the scripts recorded which
can
>> then be edited [if neccesary] and posted as a single email t  the
list,
>> thus reducing traffic and ensuring no one is left out :-)
>>
>> instant messengers and related chat functions however are more of
a
>> problem ... I would suggest email complimented by IRC as there are
many
>> free clients for just about every OS under the sun.
>>
>> Phil, stop apologising please, it's easy t  select the first entry
and
>> shift select the last then press <del> ;-)
>>
>> Phil Harris wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at it with my sensible hat on ... there's a lot of
>>
>> people get a lot
>>
>>> of usefull information from the group. IRC isn't going t  work
>>
>> s  well as it
>>
>>> depends on a conversation taking place in real time rather
than
>>
>> via email
>>
>>> where the two parties can leave and join a
"conversation" as
>>
>> they feel like
>>
>>> it and others can join in when they feel they have something t
>>
>> contribute.
>>
>>> If people have been put off the group by last nights sillyness
then
I'm
>>> afraid thats my fault and rather than them consider going
elsewhere
for
>>> information (which I really don't think they'll get as good
support
>>> elsewhere as people give here) *OR* consider fragmenting the
>>
>> list over int
>>
>>> IRC where I think lots of good information will get missed
I'll
>>
>> go walkabout
>>
>>> for a bit and let people breathe a little easier that they
>>
>> won't get floods
>>
>>> of my conversations.
>>>
>>> Basically I think it will detract from the groups ability t 
jump in
on
>>> conversations or contribute after the fact if this group was t
>>
>> split int
>>
>>> an IRC section and an email based section.
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>> --
>> Calum Morrell
>> The Morrell Group
>> Tel : 0709 214 1538
>> Fax : 0870 131 5408
>>
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we
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>> life itself." From The Declaration of Arbroath 1320.
>>
>>
>>
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conditions be brought under English rule. It is not for glory, nor
riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that
alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." From The
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