RE: New poll for ukha_d

["Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>]

The problem I see with IRC is that people aren't looking in on the
conversation and contributing actively unless they have a prior
inclinatiuon
t  be involved.

As for the large mail lists ... I have no problems with shift-deleting a
swathe of emails (I do it with most of the project ones since I'm not
involved in that) but it does put some people off who aren't so dedicated t
the "cause". I use ISDN t  retrieve my mail because where I am a
normal
modem runs at about 1.4k/sec so I do know what it's like t  have to wait
for
large numbers of mails t  download.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calum Morrell [mailto:calum@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 01 July 2001 23:27
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] New poll for ukha_d
>
>
> Phil ... yes ... but no!
>
> Yes I agree IRC requires real time meetings .... but these can be
> arranged if necessary if there specific to something rather than just
> chatting. It's a compliment to email, not a replacement ... but it is
> beneficial when groups of people need t  discuss something ... email
> *does* clog the lists and can take a long time to host a short
> disscusion. A meeting on IRC can have the scripts recorded which can
> then be edited [if neccesary] and posted as a single email t  the
list,
> thus reducing traffic and ensuring no one is left out :-)
>
> instant messengers and related chat functions however are more of a
> problem ... I would suggest email complimented by IRC as there are
many
> free clients for just about every OS under the sun.
>
> Phil, stop apologising please, it's easy t  select the first entry and
> shift select the last then press <del> ;-)
>
> Phil Harris wrote:
>
> > Looking at it with my sensible hat on ... there's a lot of
> people get a lot
> > of usefull information from the group. IRC isn't going t  work
> s  well as it
> > depends on a conversation taking place in real time rather than
> via email
> > where the two parties can leave and join a
"conversation" as
> they feel like
> > it and others can join in when they feel they have something t
> contribute.
> >
> > If people have been put off the group by last nights sillyness
then I'm
> > afraid thats my fault and rather than them consider going
elsewhere for
> > information (which I really don't think they'll get as good
support
> > elsewhere as people give here) *OR* consider fragmenting the
> list over int
> > IRC where I think lots of good information will get missed I'll
> go walkabout
> > for a bit and let people breathe a little easier that they
> won't get floods
> > of my conversations.
> >
> > Basically I think it will detract from the groups ability t  jump
in on
> > conversations or contribute after the fact if this group was t
> split int
> > an IRC section and an email based section.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> --
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