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- Subject: Re: Anyone int automation PLC's?
- From: "Richard Challis" <richard@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:36:40 +0100
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Hi Neil,
Sorry, by pods I mean the communication adaptors t get your PC t talk=
t the PLC - Quite a few manufacturers PLC's require this adaptor normally=
t adapt RS232 t RS485 (normally a butchered version) or t their own com=
ms standard (ie Siemens - MPI for the S7 series, Allen Bradley PIC
adaptors=
for the "bottom range" t 1000 UKP adaptors for the higher end)
I have used PLC's in the past to do things around the house, I've still=
got a 160 I/O PLC sat on the stairs for me t find some way of interfacing=
its I/O t the homevision. I found because of their way of thinking (ie yo=
u have to develop everything from scratch and some don't have a realtime
cl=
ock) even through I can write their code (Rung Ladder Logic normally, but
s=
tatement list for the Siemens) without thinking, the Home vision is much
be=
tter because it nativally understands IR, timeing and compensates for the
c=
hanging time of dusk etc.
The last two houses I've been in have had PLC installs but in this curr=
ent house I've not bothered and stuck t the HV. Quite irronic when I have
=
several boxes of PLC's sat about "for me t get around tuit"!
(and I own th=
e software and the various pods t talk t the creatures!)
Regards
Rich (Who has put this out t the list as it may be of interest to ot=
hers who may be considering a PLC)
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil F <automated@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Date: 01 July 2001 15:00
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
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Thanks Rich
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I'll see what I can find out in work...if they had the unit, they shoul=
d have the disk / manual / lead anyway!
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I don't understand what you mean by by pods? this has a row of input an=
d output terminals that can be wired t relays etc.
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thanks
Neil
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From: Richard Challis=20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
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I've spent the last 3 years as a Automation/Software engineer progr=
amming a range of PLC's
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Mitsi, Tele, AB, Siemens.
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One of the problems is the cost of the pods required t talk t the=
m.
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I will ask at my old work place (I resigned from my current work pl=
ace yesterday, so I'm not going t get any help from them!) for the serial
=
cable details.
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Documentation and software might be an issue. There is a chance the=
re might be an old licance/documentation hanging arround.
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What PLC's are you used t programming? I might be able t come acr=
oss an old box that you might be more familular with.
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Regards
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Rich
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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil F <automated@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Date: 01 July 2001 11:00
Subject: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
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Has anyone used a PLC for automation at home? I've rescued an o=
ld Telemecanique TSX-17 off the scrap pile in work and I am looking for
doc=
umentation and software t program it from my PC.
Can anyone provide ANY useful information / experiences with PL=
C's?
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thanks
Neil
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Automated Home UK
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
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http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi
Neil,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
<FONT color=#000000>Sorry, by
pods I mean the communication adaptors t get your PC t talk t the PLC -
Quite
a few manufacturers PLC's require this adaptor normally t adapt RS232 t
RS485
(normally a butchered version) or t their own comms standard (ie Siemens -
MPI
for the S7 series, Allen Bradley PIC adaptors for the "bottom
range"
t 1000 UKP adaptors for the higher
end)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
I have used PLC's in the past
t do things around the house, I've still got a 160 I/O PLC sat on the
stairs
for me t find some way of interfacing its I/O t the homevision. I found
because of their way of thinking (ie you have to develop everything from
scratch
and some don't have a realtime clock) even through I can write their code
(Rung
Ladder Logic normally, but statement list for the Siemens) without
thinking, the
Home vision is much better because it nativally understands IR, timeing and
compensates for the changing time of dusk etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
The last two houses I've been
in have had PLC installs but in this current house I've not bothered and
stuck
t the HV. Quite irronic when I have several boxes of PLC's sat about
"for
me t get around tuit"! (and I own the software and the various
pods t
talk t the creatures!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
Rich (Who has put
this out t the list as it may be of interest to others who may be
considering a
PLC)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Neil F <<A
href="mailto:automated@xxxxxxx";>automated@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>01 July 2001 15:00<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:
[ukha_d] Anyone int
automation PLC's?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks
Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll see what I can find out in
work...if they
had the unit, they should have the disk / manual / lead
anyway!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't understand what you mean
by by pods?
this has a row of input and output terminals that can be wired t relays
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neil</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:richard@xxxxxxx";
title=richard@xxxxxxx>Richard Challis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
title=ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:23
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int
automation PLC's?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I've spent the last 3 years as
a
Automation/Software engineer programming a range of
PLC's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Mitsi, Tele, AB,
Siemens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>One of the problems is the cost of the pods
required
t talk t them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I will ask at my old work place (I resigned
from my
current work place yesterday, so I'm not going t get any help from
them!) for the serial cable details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Documentation and software might be an issue.
There is
a chance there might be an old licance/documentation hanging
arround.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>What PLC's are you used t
programming?
I might be able t come across an old box that you might be more
familular with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Neil F
<<A
href="mailto:automated@xxxxxxx";>automated@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>01 July 2001 11:00<BR><B>Subject: </B>[ukha_d]
Anyone int
automation PLC's?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone used a PLC for
automation at
home? I've rescued an old Telemecanique TSX-17 off the scrap pile in
work and I am looking for documentation and software t program it
from my PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone provide ANY useful
information / experiences with PLC's?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Neil</FONT></DIV><BR><TT><BR><BR>____________________________________<BR>Automated
Home UK<BR><A
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