Re: A quite stunningly "newbie" question :)

["Graham Butler" <graham@xxxxxxx>]

Yip, gottit now thanks.  Thought it was a bit too good to be true :)

G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian B" <Ian@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] A quite stunningly "newbie" question :)


> You are both correct. In the lighting world it is generally fairly
easy to
> put in an LD11 (triac based and can dim) module as long as you have
access
> to the neutral wire and the switch etc. In this case one LD11 per
light
> circuit. I have my kitchen lights (all 4 of them) on one.
>
> For lounge circuits etc. things get more difficult. As you correctly
say
an
> LD10 (relay based) will affect the entire ring if it is wired through
it.
> There is an intermediate although not 100% satisfactory answer in an
X10
> socket. This is individually addressable like a module but is flush
like a
> socket. The downside is cost and one socket takes up a double gang
socket.
>
> Hope this clears it up for you.
>
> Ian B
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graham Butler [mailto:graham@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 10 December 2001 03:44
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] A quite stunningly "newbie"
question :)
> >
> >
> > Ok, now I'm even more confused :-)
> >
> > To give an example - I have about 6 mains sockets in my sitting
> > room, all of
> > which are used by a mixture of appliances (TV, DVD, Amp etc).
> > I'm presuming
> > that standard wiring for a house is that all of those sockets (if
not
more
> > in other rooms) will be on one main.  How then do individual DINs
at,
say,
> > the fusebox end, "know" which appliance to control?
> >
> > Or am I missing something fundamental to UK electrical wiring
specs?
> >
> > G
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Des Gibbons" <des@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 AM
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] A quite stunningly "newbie"
question :)
> >
> >
> > > A din rail module is basically the same as a plug in module,
except
> > instead
> > > of it being at the socket, its at the other end of the
cable. You
still
> > need
> > > 1 din rail module for each device you want to control. For
lighting,
you
> > > need to modify your wiring to use din rail modules for each
light.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Des
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Graham Butler [mailto:graham@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 10 December 2001 03:21
> > > > To: UKHA_D
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] A quite stunningly "newbie"
question :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been seeing these DIN modules popping up all over
the place
while
> > > > looking at X10 stuff and, having had zero experience
with
> > > > electrical wiring,
> > > > was a little nonplussed.  However, a little bit of
surfing
> > > > (doncha just love
> > > > insomnia) and I think I've figured it out, so I guess
I'm just after
> > > > confirmation.
> > > >
> > > > As I understand it, these things connect directly to
the mains,
> > therefore
> > > > one module will control ALL things plugged into that
section of the
> > mains?
> > > > So if you had several appliances in one room that you
wanted to have
> > > > different X10 addresses, you'd most likely have to use
plug-in
modules
> > > > bearing in mind the UK's predilection for ring mains?
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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