RE: Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime

[Keith Doxey <ukha.diyha@xxxxxxx>]

Yep. Thats correct.

If you can find a free ISP then that is obviously the best way, but
Freeserve charge ?3-00 to new registrations. I did it when it was free.

Initially BT Internet werent using Caller ID and I could dial in from any
of the 3 numbers.
Freeserve would only allow me in using my digital number which was the one
I registered with them.

Hope that helps

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From:	steve [SMTP:steve@xxxxxxx]
Sent:	06 April 2001 18:01
To:	ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject:	Re: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime

BT bills are not as clear as they could be. I didnt keep it, i only have
the 1st page advance charges 216. HH BT together & 3 network services.

So from what you are saying i can use my LAN on one channel and my epod on
the other. Now just need an 2nd ISP for access.

Steve.

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Doxey
To: ukha_d
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime


Surftime applies to the ACCOUNT not the number and is ?5-99 per month

Normal POTS line = one number with Surftime
Home Highway = three numbers , analogue1, analogue2, digital(2ports)
Surftime discount applies to all numbers.

MOST ISP's use caller ID as part of the authentication for their surftime
dialups.

I have BTInternet Surftime at ?4-00 bringing the total Surftime cost to
?9-99 pm
These are shown separately on the bill as follows

Rentals

analogue 1  BT Surftime E&W     15-29pq = 17-97 inc vat = 5-99 pm

analogue 2  BT Surftime E&W     0-00

digital         BT Surftime E&W     0-00
BTInternet Surftime Subscription  10-20pq = 12-00 inc
vat = 4-00 pm
BT Together -HH Conversion from PSTN 102-10pq = 120 pq =
40 pm

I also registered with Freeserve before they started charging so have
Surftime access to that.
I can dial one PC into BT Internet and another into Freeserve all for my
9-99 per month.

Keith



-----Original Message-----
From: steve [mailto:steve@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:38
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime


I seem to recall the surftime charge was spilt on the last bill over
the 2 HH numbers. Has anyone asked for a reduction or rebate as no one
supports the use of 2 lines ?

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Hetherington
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime


Demon do not currently provide bonding on their surftime products.
>from
Demon's FAQ:

What about ISDN?
BT ISDN-2 lines (including Home Highway and Business Highway) can
call the
new numbers. Other types of BT ISDN line cannot. The BT SurfTime
subscription covers both channels of the ISDN line.
The new telephone numbers contact the existing Purple ROMP. This ROMP
does
not have a dual-channel-bonding facility. This may be added at some
future
date.

Mark.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Whiten [mailto:jon@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 April 2001 18:10
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime


With respect to this, BT Surftime (as a billing product) allows for
Bonded
ISDN.  The part of BT that provides the Surfports that the isps use
(Demon
excepted) cannot, for technical reasons, accommodate Bonded ISDN.
Demon get
round this, I believe, by not using BTs Surfport product but by
routing the
Surftime call direct to their modem racks where they can do as they
please.

Regards,

Jon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barnett_Ray@xxxxxxx [mailto:Barnett_Ray@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 April 2001 11:34
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: BT ISDN + BT Anytime


> While it is possible to bond the two channels it's down to the ISP
> to support it

The last I heard was that Surftime T&Cs allow you to bond channels,
and providers such as Demon will allow you to connect to them via
Surftime bonded channels. However, I was also told that BT have not
yet managed to overcome 'some technical' difficulties in implementing
channel bonding over Surftime, for which I assume what is really
meant is that BT *can* provide but would like to drag their heels
over it for further commercial gain, not that I'm cynical.

Your best bet is to phone Demon's sales or technical line. They seem
pretty clued up and helpful, particularly if you are a prospective
customer.

Ray Barnett





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